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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,583 ✭✭✭✭josip


    They'd better hurry up, only a couple of hours of daylight left 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,397 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Friends, there is no good news in Kherson. The next day or two will show what will happen next.

    Resignation is the overwhelming theme on the Russian channels today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,397 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Kherson, Russia.


    They gave it up. They will announce in the evening.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,397 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    "The best news of the day for Ukraine"

    Looks like this may have aged badly in light of what's happening in Kherson.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,568 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    I think its summed up as "Today is a good day for Ukrainian efforts"

    Thanks for all the updates! They have been really illuminating!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,397 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,862 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui



    This is inappropriate. Zelensky hasn't been acting the part of hero.

    Only kidding, lovely gesture.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,397 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Ukrainian flag raised in Snihurivka (geolocated in Tweet).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,397 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Let's talk about Kherson. 


    Some units received orders to withdraw from the right bank, some units have already crossed over, some are still ensuring the withdrawal of the remaining forces. Some still have not been told what is going on at all.


    Soon tonight, you will hear a lot of excuses and stories about how it will only get better. It won't. Some are already claiming that the result of surrendering Kherson is a backroom political game and yet another gesture of goodwill. However, this is not entirely true either. The result of what is taking place is months of systematic mistakes and failure to correct mistakes, which snowballed and brought us here, and then everything else. 


    Back in July, during one of the first (and eventually final) closures of the Antonov bridge due to shelling, we stated (https://t.me/milinfolive/87355) that if the threat to the Dnieper crossings was not eliminated, it could lead to the surrender of Kherson as a result of an AFU attack. Alas, it all came true.


    During the months of fighting in the Kherson direction, the right bank grouping had lost its main supply and ammunition routes, and the units were far from their regular strength. All this prevented any offensive operations to push the HIMARS further inland so they could no longer threaten the Dnepr bridges. The entrenched problems of interaction, the ultra-centralized decision-making chain, the lack of reconnaissance and high-precision means of engaging the enemy's targets to a depth of at least a few dozen kilometers made it impossible to resolve these problems on our own.


    To sum it up: what is going on is a combination of disastrous mistakes, years and months of unsolved problems, and the lack of the necessary resources. If the enemy comes to the Dnieper River, the northern part of Crimea will already be under the threat of enemy strikes, and in the prospect of receiving new means from NATO - the entire peninsula, the airfields and the base of the Black Sea Fleet.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,785 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    So the Russians have killed the deputy head of Kherson on the same day they hand it back to Ukraine - I suppose he would have been quite outspoken against the regime had he been alive to see it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    It's the last paragraph that is telling.. Crimea will come increasingly within range. The remaining recently arrived rats will soon start fleeing. Who in their right mind will hang around too long. Not that many routes out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭zv2


    Liberated is a euphemism for 500 dead Russian soldiers.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,397 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    The city of Kherson and neighboring settlements can not supply and function - Surovikin

    General Surovikin statement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,397 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    The main point about Kherson from Surovikin's report to Shoygu:


    - The city of Kherson and adjoining settlements cannot be supplied and function; 


    - Everyone in Kherson Oblast, which is more than 115,000 people, has left the area of combat operations;


    - It is advisable to organize defense along the barrier line of the Dnieper River, along its left bank;


    The Minister of Defense agreed with Surovikin's conclusions and proposals. The order to withdraw the troops across the Dnieper River was given.




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    The backwards advance.


    BBC News - Russia to withdraw troops from key city of Kherson

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63573387



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    If the Russians have crossed the Dnipro river, what's the best way of attacking them now? Cut off their route back to Russia along the south and force them out through Crimea?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,628 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Russian to withdraw from Kherson

    But am I the only one who has doubts about what's going on?

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,785 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    lol, are you suggesting the Russians are engaging in some kind of feint?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Sean Penn admits this is silly and symbolic but he has gifted one of his 2 Oscars to Ukraine

    “It’s just a symbolic, silly thing, but if I know this is here then I’ll feel better and strong enough for the fights,” Penn said after handing the Oscar over in a video posted to social media. Penn won Oscars in 2009 for Milk and in 2004 for Mystic River. He’s been nominated three other times.

    This is not Penn’s first time visiting Ukraine, and he informed Zelensky that despite having two golden statues, he wants this one back.

    “When you win, bring it back to Malibu because I’ll feel much better knowing there’s a piece of me here,” the actor said.

    The lovefest between Zelensky and Penn did not end there. The Ukrainian president displayed Penn’s Oscar and then showed him a plaque honoring him on the Walk of the Brave, honoring Ukrainian heroes.

    “There are three places in the world that all the pride of my life will be,” Penn said. “The place where my daughter was born, the place where my son was born, and this.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    They can push two fronts one directly towards Kherson and a possibility they push south from karkhiv the Russians are going to struggle to hold them off once HiMars and M270s coming into the area



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,628 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    I'm suggesting just seems odd a city they vowed to defend to the death and now they run.

    I hope it's true. But still they can regroup on the far side of river. This army needs to be destroyed intact. Not allowed to regroup and counter attack.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,400 ✭✭✭Addmagnet



    It's clearly swamp gas from a weather balloon that was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus. Duh!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    They aren't regrouping to counterattack, they are regrouping to consolidate and stalemate and try and force a hold on the Donbass at a future negotiating table.

    It shouldn't be allowed to happen of course. A systematic cutting off and squeezing of each Russian/Rebel position in that region should eventually lead to the full ejection of Russia from sovereign Ukraine and restoration of the 2013 border.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,785 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    As soon as General Surovkin was put in charge one of the first comments he made publicly was about how difficult it would be to defend kherson with only 2 real points to supply it (Antonovsky bridge, Nova Kakhovka dam). You can only send ferries back and forth across the Dnieper for so long

    Its a shame they decided to leave, as otherwise there was a chance Ukraine could fully blow the kakhovka dam and have russian force in Kherson totally cut off. With a retreat they may save many of their soldiers and weaponry



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    This seems very scripted or staged. Organised retreat to protect servicemen (even head honcho Shoygu, with a straight face, says servicemen safety is #1 priority always!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,397 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Ukrainian presidential adviser Podolyak: Ukraine does not pay attention to Russian statements, words and actions are different, our armed forces work according to their own plan - reconnaissance, risk assessment, effective counterattack. As long as the Ukrainian flag is not flying over the city of Kherson, there is no point in talking about a Russian retreat.

    The Russians are definitely making a big deal about this withdrawal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,862 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


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    ⚡️ Ukraine has asked the USA to start supplying C-RAM systems to counter Iranian drones, ABC News.

    VR head Ruslan Stefanchuk has sent a letter to the US Congress asking it to hand over C-RAM air defence systems to the Ukrainian military to defend against Iranian drone attacks on Ukraine's critical infrastructure.

    Hopefully they will get them



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Maybe the Russians are attempting to entice UKR forces into formerly occupied area and to blow the dam? Suspect they won't be rushing in.

    If that is the Russian tactic, it's pretty stupid and worthy of a child.



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