Las Vegas Raiders Thread

So... that happened, We were in cruise control 1st half and then once Arizona got going we had no answer on offense. Credit to the defense , they kept us in it and only some moments of real quality from Kyler Murray we may have held on but just too many mistakes no offense to overcome.

The offense went very conservative in the 2nd half and O-line protection completely broke down , production on the ground was poor and we didn't take any time off the clock.

Need to build on the positives from the 1st half and kick on...

its been a season for strange results so who knows maybe we will beat Denver but if not it could get ugly very quick - kansas city up next after that!

We won!!! Well done us!!! Not even thinking about next week but this was nice to see. Great seeing another team get more penalties than us and we seemed to be much more settled in all aspect of play. It would be nice if..................no, I said I wasnt going to think about about next week and thats the way I'm keeping it!

Only caught the highlights this morning (and the lowlights at the end of the game)

but some positives to take going into arrowhead and losing by 1 pt isn’t bad but some of the decisions late in the game were very strange - 2pt conversion when an extra point ties it with 4 mins left , the 4th down play call where the routes got mixed up when maybe a quick slant or a run would have been better giving how well josh Jacobs was doing last night.

I know this team is 1-4 and hard to argue based on some of the performances. I feel like McDaniels still doesn’t have a good idea how to get the best out of what is there.

it’s probably a good week for the break to regroup and see what can be rescued out of the season.

Whats been really strange is that he has not found a way to get the ball to Darren Waller on any consistency this year so far - 16 catches in 5 games is way below what I expected. I understood Davante Adams would get more targets but I hoped that would leave more space for Waller and have better opportunities in the intermediate routes but its just not working out.

Well that was a disappointment - offense didn't really do anything at all. The offensive line just couldn't hold up under the pass rush and there was nowhere to run. We seem to never have a good offensive line and lots of talent at the skill positions at the same time - its a feast or a famine. Thats what happens I suppose when you cant settle on a front office long term.

Need to rebound against the jags, would be a great time to get Darren Waller back and have a bit more output from Chandler Jones.

Somehow appropriate that this thread has lost all hope.

No, its not that we've lost hope, we havent had it since 2002!!!!!!

Hi Kev, good points well made! I do think that McDaniels can work with the offense but of course he isnt our Offensive Co-ordinator. He has to be present on both sides of the ball. Graham when he was hired came highly recommended and I suppose we all thought that he would raise the level of the D. And it hasnt happened. McD hasnt endeared himself to the fans because he is much more aloof and doesnt wear his heart on his sleeve. This doesnt sit well with the Raiders fanbase because we all want another Madden and McD just isnt that. I dont know what I would prefer at this moment, the head says give him time, the heart is going sack him!!

I am not sure about his coverage skills but he is the type of safety the league is moving away from - he has poor tackle form , doesn't wrap up and tries for big hits most of the time. I think we have trying to trade him since the off season and cutting him is a realization of his value to the team and trade potential.

He will likely land on another team quickly as a serviceable backup but I cant see him as a starter in the league.

Yes agreed , our 1st rd selections have been awful for a long time. when you consider we have had 6 1st round picks from 2019-2021 and only 1(Josh Jacobs and will he re-sign now that we didn't pick up his 5th year?) is still with the team now that goes to show the inability to draft quality. We seen to always draft players above the projection and based on their performance you have to question the scouting reports that lead to those decisions.

This is near enough to the most low I have ever felt as a Raider fan, and god knows we've had practice....

Yep, I dont blame you for that selection, new Head Coach bounce coupled with our fragile dressing room it wasnt a reach to pick them (Lets see how they do this week). As regards us, I'm always loath to advocate changing the Coaching structure. The best Franchises are the most stable ones and we've always had a scattergun approach to hiring and firing since the mid 90s. But I do think that McDaniels has lost the dressing room. Thats the first thing (and hardest thing) to fix. Then the Defense, and also the O-line. Graham was a highly rated Defensive Co-ordinator before he came to LV so its either the personnel or communication between coaching and the players in terms of philosophy. Everyone wants the current Coaches out and I'm not so sure that is the wisest of moves. I see loads of fans want Sean Payton on board or Chucky back. Payton would be good but can we please stop thinking that Gruden is going to pick up where he left off in 2001? His drafting was awful and it was Bisaccia that got us to the playoffs last year. Anyways, as always, the Raiders find themselves in the middle of a maelstrom and we are trying to make sense of it all!

I agree. We made hard work of it but we got there in the end. Up until the Mack Hollins receptions in the 3rd Quarter, I really did wonder if any WR's were actually trying apart from 17. It really seemed like Carr had lost the WR corps. But it worked out okay. Next up, Seattle. Man thats going to be v interesting.

It definitely would, Kev! And given that the Chargers run defense is not that good, its time for some more Josh Jacobs!