Why is it normal/OK to be obese in Ireland?.

21-09-2018 03:39PM

Graces7 wrote: »

Never heard phrases like that until recently. It vastly complicates life . never was factored in in the years I had serious weight issues at both ends of the range and it would not if I had such issues now,

It was simply a matter of exercising will power. Or a motivation like a holiday or a wedding ahead.

Or putting health etc before anything else.

Luckily Grace that was something you could do. Its not something everyone can do.

Shanotheslayer · 21-09-2018 03:40PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Why, how is any different than telling a smoker that cigarettes cause cancer and kill or to an alcoholic that alcohol is either going to kill them or destroy their life. Why does obsesity get a free ride in your opinion?

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Sometimes intervention is appropriate. Would you stand back and say nothing if someone were walking towards a cliff? Why is ok do you think to remain silent and let someone possibly unknowingly destroy themselves?

Irony is you refusing to answer a question in the other thread regarding obesity and stating it's ''Whataboutry''

Yet your two posts above are literally that.

21-09-2018 03:40PM

Graces7 wrote: »

One of the saddest posts ever. Hating your body?

Yes indeed. There are people who hate their bodies.

SusieBlue · 21-09-2018 03:42PM

Graces7 wrote: »

Never heard phrases like that until recently. It vastly complicates life . never was factored in in the years I had serious weight issues at both ends of the range and it would not if I had such issues now,

It was simply a matter of exercising will power. Or a motivation like a holiday or a wedding ahead.

Or putting health etc before anything else.

That's an extremely simplistic way of viewing it, if everyone could just motivate themselves by thinking of their holiday/a wedding there would be no fat people. Its not that simple.

Graces7 wrote: »

One of the saddest posts ever. Hating your body?

Unfortunately in today's society, this is something that is far more common than you'd think.

Shanotheslayer · 21-09-2018 03:44PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

Unfortunately in today's society, this is something that is far more common than you'd think.

Well gyms would be out of business if everybody loved their bodies :pac:

Hitman3000 · 21-09-2018 04:37PM

Shanotheslayer wrote:

Yet your two posts above are literally that.

I'm flattered, I have a stalker.

uli84 · 24-09-2018 04:14AM

Sugar tax my ass, they should introduce this instead - free public transport ticket when you do 30 squats, genius

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewbender/2013/11/14/moscow-subway-station-lets-passengers-pay-fare-in-squats/#46501f0bb0d8

....... · 24-09-2018 09:47AM

uli84 wrote: »

Sugar tax my ass, they should introduce this instead - free public transport ticket when you do 30 squats, genius

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewbender/2013/11/14/moscow-subway-station-lets-passengers-pay-fare-in-squats/#46501f0bb0d8

No use to me, knee surgeries have destroyed my knees.

764dak · 25-09-2018 12:45AM

She has been in Ireland for three months and is already trying to spread her fat acceptance: https://www.meetup.com/Body-Justice-and-Fat-Feminism-Group/

JupiterKid · 25-09-2018 12:51AM

I’m over in Holland at the moment and from my many time being over here to visit I’ve noticed just how few obese or even overweight Dutch there are. There is definitely a problem with obesity in Ireland.

Shanotheslayer · 25-09-2018 12:53AM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

I'm flattered, I have a stalker.

Yeh totally.

A whole two threads to do with obesity that you're commenting on yet contradicting yourself.

Imagine clicking into similar threads and seeing the same posters. I'm baffled.

Rubberchikken · 25-09-2018 01:06AM

Fat shaming has become the new no no in the media so its taken as ok be proud of the fact that you're obese.
The pathetic and hypocritical thing is theres seemingly no problem pointing the finger at people perceived as excessively thin.

AllForIt · 25-09-2018 01:09AM

764dak wrote: »

She has been in Ireland for three months and is already trying to spread her fat acceptance: https://www.meetup.com/Body-Justice-and-Fat-Feminism-Group/

I am genuinely utterly appalled by that. I couldn't stomach to read it all.

pleas advice · 25-09-2018 03:05AM

In a move that will come as a surprise, if not a totally unpredictable one, Weight Watchers have decided to remove any reference to weight from their name, and are now to be known simply as WW...

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45625191

why use three syllables when six will do?

Brid Hegarty · 31-10-2022 02:21PM

Ireland is now the first in Europe to declare obesity as a disease due to the HSEs recent decision. Was listening to The HSE's national clinical lead for obesity, Donal O'Shea on the Matt Cooper show the other day.

He says that only 5-10 % of over-weight/obese people actually have the ability to lose the weight by changing their lifestyle AND keep it off. For the other 90% or more, the genetic compensation element within their body will do everything it can to bring their weight back up. Could it really be 5-10 percent!? It's funny because any time you do see a fat person they will always be carrying that coke can or whatever... so it's hard not to think it's not their own fault.

He was basically saying that we need to get away from this "eat less, move more" idea, and was very strong about it. He made the comparison to smoking, by asking "would you tell someone with lung cancer that they need to stop smoking as their treatment?".

He said that in their in-patient program they put people a highly restricted energy in-take combined with physical activity, and they don't lose weight. A lot of people texting into the show disagreed with him. He was asked "then why are there more obese people now than before?" and he said it's because the food and physical environment has changed so much over the last 40 years. He went to say that the people with such a predisposition who weigh about 25 stone, would weight about 17 stone if it were the 1970s.

It's interesting that there was no talk about the gut microbiome in this segment, which I've no doubt has had an effect on obesity due to the over prescribing of antibiotics.

Brid Hegarty · 31-10-2022 02:39PM

Ireland is now the first in Europe to declare obesity as a disease due to the HSEs recent decision.

I heard Prof Donal O'Shea (the HSE's national clinical lead for obesity) on the Matt Cooper show the other day. He says that only 5-10 % of over-weight/obese people actually have the ability to lose the weight by changing their lifestyle AND keep it off. For the other 90% or more, the genetic compensation element within their body will do everything it can to bring their weight back up. Could it really be 5-10 percent!? It's funny because any time you do see a fat person they will always be carrying that coke can or whatever... so it's hard not to think it's not their own fault.

He was basically saying that we need to get away from this "eat less, move more" idea, and was very strong about it. He made the comparison to smoking, by asking "would you tell someone with lung cancer that they need to stop smoking as their treatment?".

He said that in their in-patient program they put obese people a highly restricted energy in-take combined with physical activity, and they don't lose weight. A lot of people texting into the show disagreed with him. He was asked "then why are there more obese people now than before?" and he said it's because the food and physical environment has changed so much over the last 40 years. He went to say that the people with such a predisposition who weigh about 25 stone, would weight about 17 stone if it were the 1970s.

I can't really say I disagree with him, but there was little talk about the actual treatment, apart from a quick mention of a few diabetes drugs. Apparently there'll be loads of new better drugs on the market within a year or two that won't have as much side effects. It's interesting that there was no talk about the gut microbiome in this segment, which I've no doubt has had an effect on obesity due to the over prescribing of antibiotics.