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Citroen Ami

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,704 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms



    How do you know this?

    Are you just guessing if so I hope you are wrong on all points.


    Because its not a car. It's a quadracycle.

    I agree it sure woukd be and woukd be perfect for me living in the Country. Are sure you would learn it's limits the same as I have with my current electric 3 wheeler. I have lifted the wheel on that a few times I can tell you and it was scary the first few times but you learn it's limits. This is why I would love an Ami it would be more stable. I would miss having electric windows do but the open hatch windows on it are cute.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭steinbock123


    What is your “current electric three wheeler “ ??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,631 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    @AMKC - "Because its not a car. It's a quadracycle."

    Indeed. So afaik, you still need a car driving license (B), tax and insurance to drive it. No need for an NCT though. Same as Renault Twizy. Unless we get the "French" version that can only do 45km/h max, that would mean you can drive it on a moped license (AM). Still need tax and insurance though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,704 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Has anyone seen an Ami in Ireland yet? Has Citroen even set a price? As far as I know you can buy them online in the UK from Citroen. Maybe they could do that here.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,631 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Yes you can, just checked on citroen.co.uk. GBP8k on the road if you go collect it yourself, estimated time 14 weeks


    Website also confirms it's doing 45km/h max and you can drive with AM or B license


    45km/h is dangerously slow imho, really shouldn't be on the public road, again imho



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭Dub.


    Would there be import charges on this bringing it over from France of the UK?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,631 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    France is in the EU, no import duties, no VAT

    The UK is outside of the EU, so there would be import duties and VAT

    Either way, no VRT (because it's a cheap EV)

    Not cheap for what is is though, but too cheap to get any EV grant in Ireland (which is ridiculous, the cheapest EVs should have the highest subsidies, not the other way around). I guess the price here would be close enough to €10k once it becomes available. The 45km/h limit is a big no-no for me though. I'm out. 80km/h is the very minimum a car should be able to do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,704 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    45km/h is dangerously slow imho, really shouldn't be on the public road, again imho

    Not at all. My little 3 wheeled machine does 47km tops and it's a lot quicker than walking. I have drove from towns to villages with it no problem 5 to 10 miles distance. The mirrors could be better on it do.

    I was stuck behind a tractor the other day that was going slower no where to pass do because it was going through the town.

    Actually I was not driving that day I was on the bus. Still woukd not have been able to pass if U was do because it was going through the town doing about 20km I'd say.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,313 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Screenshot_20220921-133101.png

    Now in Northern Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Might seem like a silly question but is it available in RHD now then?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,704 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    No they are just made as left hand drive. It would not be viable for Citroen to make them right hand drive and besides they are so small there is hardly any point and besides you would not be passing much out in it except bicycles and the osds old tractor anyway.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,704 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Would it be possible to buy one of these new on PCP from a dealer in the North and bring it down south?

    What's the nearest Citroen dealer to the border?


    Citroen Ireland still do not have any info about it on there website.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭Dub.


    Anyone interested in using one of these on a day to day basis should check out a youtube channel called `Me and Mon Ami`.


    Two amusing gay English lads and their Citroen Ami adventures in the south of France. They had never driven before or possessed any type of licence before buying the little vehicle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,631 ✭✭✭✭unkel




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,101 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Yes VAT as it is deemed a new vehicle and VAT is charged. If you buy a new car in the EU you must pay VAT here.

    And they still don't need a license as (AFAIK) the Ami meets the requirement to be a voiture sans permit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,631 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    If the car was bought new in France (with French VAT paid obviously), then you buy it second hand over there and bring it over to Ireland and zero VAT, VRT or import duty is due.


    So if you bought the car from those UK dudes and bring it to Ireland, you would pay no taxes whatsoever



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,101 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    To do that it must be more than 6 months old and have more than 5k km on the clock



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    I thought cars needed type approval to be imported here, no?

    Other than the ones that Citroën brought in as demonstrators, I doubt anyone has actually imported one yet. I suppose there always has to be someone who is first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,631 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    6k km ;-)

    I'm sure the lads have done more than that, they seem to be taking it everywhere 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭Dub.


    Yeah, they don`t possess a driving license. They did mention getting insurance but i don`t know if thats compulsory or not. They have done some videos where they cross the border into Italy. Not sure of the legality of that as i believe the Italians do require some kind of basic moped license to drive the Ami. Perhaps the Italians ignore the French reg Ami`s to avoid the hassle.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,631 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    It looks like the perfect car for them over there. Personally I have a big problem with the 45km/h speeding limit and the not needing a license. The speed restriction alone is enough to stop me buying one. It's simply dangerous anywhere but on congested city centre roads. And it ain't cheap either at about €8k before taxes. The Chinese manage to sell a car with far more features and more range and no such restrictions from about $4k before shipping and taxes. Of course nowhere near as cool though 

    😂

    



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,101 ✭✭✭✭ELM327




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    Once you have a type approval on one EU country that's enough. CoC, basically.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,631 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    It would be handy if you didn't need insurance. Then you could replace the controller with one that allows more current or use a device that overrides the OEM settings, like people did with the Twizy (although this wasn't all that easy or cheap as Renault had the proprietary stuff tied down well). Unfortunately in Ireland insurance companies can be anal about this sort of stuff and when you'd declare this mod, I'd say most would refuse to provide cover. Although you might be lucky. I had no problem insuring my BMW that was originally a diesel but now converted to electric.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,257 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    You seem to forget it’s not an actual car. It’s a quadricycle. Designer for young teens and small European streets and villages as an alternative to a moped



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,631 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    I know. The benchmark in this class, which is the Renault Twizy, came out 10 years ago. It can do a respectable 80km/h

    Granted it was not quite aimed at young teens as a moped replacement 😀

    No reason why the Ami couldn't have two versions though. A slow one for ....... and a normal one for normal people 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,704 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    It looks like the perfect car for them over there. Personally I have a big problem with the 45km/h speeding limit and the not needing a license. The speed restriction alone is enough to stop me buying one. It's simply dangerous anywhere but on congested city centre roads.

    No thst speeds not dangerous at all. Its perfect for some people. It would perfect for me too but I have a vehicle that can do that speed and be upgraded to do 66km. Its more than enough for me but I would happily upgrade to the Ami.

    I so not go far from home often.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,257 ✭✭✭✭ted1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,631 ✭✭✭✭unkel



    I disagree. The speed maybe doesn't seem to be dangerous to the people in the vehicle, but it is holding traffic up anywhere but in already slow and congested city centre streets. If traffic is being held up, people will get impatient and aggressive and want to overtake, which can lead to dangerous situations. Unless it clearly is a special needs vehicle, then people seem to be better able to control themselves. Do you mind sharing what vehicle you have?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,704 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Here is a site if your looking to buy an Ami,


    there is even an Ami Buggy there and a few Ami Cargos too.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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