Range Rover Velar ignored in Ireland

goochy · 27-09-2021 07:49AM #1

Was in Tullamore yesterday and spotted a high spec. Velar with big wheels . Looked very impressive with nearly as much presence as a full fat Range Rover . Got me thinking aside from seeing the odd basic spec. model with small wheels , you dont see many on the road or in dealers showrooms.

With better looks ( with right spec. ) and a better badge than the Discovery and a similar price , why arent these flying out of the showrooms like say the RR sport is ?

ba_barabus · 27-09-2021 09:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058210575/range-rover-velar-ignored-in-ireland

The Discovery is more usable for families, its therefore considered expensive for what it is. When you could just pay a little more and have a proper Range Rover.

Due to taxes, it really doesn't make sense here in Ireland.

freddieot · 27-09-2021 01:22PM

I had an X5 until a couple of years ago and really liked the look of the Velar and was waiting for it to be released. It looks stunning IMO.

However, although I don't go up mountain passes. I don't see the logic of not having a rear wash wipe on a vehicle that size and dimensions. In other words, not practical enough. Mate bought a new RR Sport a few days ago and again, even though when buying most of these vehicles, it's s prestige \ heart purchase, it's just a lot more practical that the Velar.

goochy · 27-09-2021 01:33PM

yes but is the Sport not alot more expensive than the Velar ? Dont know what it is , but have never like the current or original Sport model - just think the design is very cluttered.

PsychoPete · 27-09-2021 01:57PM

That fact that they are a ball of sh!t reliability wise might have something to do with it. Heard so many stories from lads working in Range Rover about Velars needing new engines after a couple of thousand kms and a host of other problems

goochy · 27-09-2021 02:00PM

Yes , i know someone working with them also who says they make them too complicated also ( probably why they drive so well ) , mind you Irish motorists seem to love Land Rovers - there is still good demand for even say 15 year old models .

Its obviously the image and driving experience that does it for people. Definitely think a well specced Velar beats a RRS for looks / image.

gearoidol · 28-09-2021 10:56AM

Our one is just coming up to 3 years old . Never a days grief but i am well aware that isn't always the case with Jlr stuff. Very economical and cheap to run , long service intervals ,cheap road tax on the d180 ,very cheap insurance for some odd reason and overall a great family car. New P400e Velar hybrid ordered and arriving on the 24th Nov into the garage for a 2022 plate. Oddly enough got a trade in value last Jan and ended up getting offered 11k more for trade in for next Jan from the same garage. Amazing 2nd values at the moment.

goochy · 28-09-2021 10:59AM

sorry thats not a typo ? 11k more ?

gearoidol · 28-09-2021 11:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117949100#Comment_117949100

not a typo ,amazed , went to the garage with a friend who was interested in buying , he purchased a disco commercial , bought velar and defender commercial the same day , incredible trade in value.

goochy · 28-09-2021 11:30AM

i spotted your reg surrounds , that same dealer you bought your current Velar from ? They arent big into used sales - seem to sell most vehicles in the trade.

gearoidol · 28-09-2021 11:38AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117949251#Comment_117949251

have been dealing with that group for a while now ,along way away from me but always seem to get a deal done

goochy · 28-09-2021 12:34PM

yes i noticed quite a few vehicles in Dublin from them also , so must be doing good deals - just surprised if they are selling off alot of their trade ins.

Robertr · 05-10-2021 11:55AM

I was crazy about them on paper, before they came out, but was disappointed when I went to see one. I found them quite small on the inside compared with anything else in the range. Also the pricing was crazy when you spec'd it to look like the launch images.

goochy · 05-10-2021 03:38PM

I assume they have made it small on inside so as not to take away sales from other models they produce

buzzerxx · 25-08-2022 06:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117949076#Comment_117949076

How is the new Velar going for you? I have a 2018 rdynamic velar

gearoidol · 27-08-2022 06:21PM

It's b

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119521922#Comment_119521922

It's a fab car to be fair,the p400e is a joy, dead silent , fantasticly economical if not doing journeys over 180km in one go too often , new pivi pro has sorted all the infotainment gremlins... Very happy with it

Montage of Feck · 27-08-2022 06:26PM

You say it like it's a bad thing OP? :)

California Dreamer · 27-08-2022 09:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117945554#Comment_117945554

Another X5 driver here and had the chance to rent a Velar on holidays last year and was sooooooo underwhelming!

After 4 days I wanted to return it, certainly not a drivers car. Like a hippo on chocolate skates!!!!

Rowley Birkin QC · 29-08-2022 01:58PM

What kind of money are they in any of the spec mentioned here?

I don't have kids, don't drive a whole pile (<12k km/yr) and like a nice car but I'm always astonished at the amount of these (what I'm assuming are €80/90k+) RR's floating around. I had a loan of a full fat RR Vogue for a weekend a few months back and it was certainly a nice place to sit but the fuel consumption was astonishing.

buzzerxx · 30-09-2022 04:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119537797#Comment_119537797

I get 37mpg in my velar.

buzzerxx · 19-10-2022 10:37PM

LOVE THE VELAR SHAPE AND STYLE OVER THE LUMP THAT IS THE X5. Hit dynamic mode and sports on the velar and it stiffens up and shifts i tell you.

goochy · 20-10-2022 07:10AM

cant understand why LR in Ireland at the moment seem to be selling mostly Commercial Discoveries and Defenders , thought there would be decent demand for Hybrid passenger Defenders and Discovery sports etc. and they are higher price vehicles so more profit

bazz26 · 20-10-2022 10:07AM

I'd imagine the vast majority are bought or leased through a business, hence why the are commerical. You cannot claim VAT back on petrol or on the price of a passenger vehicle. Hybrids are also not except from BIK.

gearoidol · 21-10-2022 10:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119769768#Comment_119769768

I have a defender commercial and my wife has the velar. Pricing is gone weird at the moment and while pricing a new defender commercial for next year,

i noticed its now cheaper to buy a defender P400e hybrid passenger than a D250 commercial. Main reason is the low vrt rate for hybrids.

One of the biggest reason over and above being able to claim back vat on vehicle and diesel a company car driver would choose a commercial over a passenger ,is commercials attract a near zero rate of BIK compared to the passenger version. In something the price of a defender ,depending on mileage you could be paying 30k a year on BIK if you want back seats. Also commericals tend to hold their value much better than their passenger versions .

goochy · 21-10-2022 10:12AM

does your Defender have x3 front seats ? - seems good idea but imagine it takes away from comfort /prestige of a high priced vehicle.

i am just surprised not to see more passenger LR's around , down Cork direction anyhow

AMKC · 23-10-2022 05:38PM

Maybe it's because they are so boring. It's just far too plain looking.

goochy · 23-10-2022 05:44PM

Not when they are colour coded , have big sized wheels and leather interior. LR products are also rarely boring to drive.

Cyrus · 23-10-2022 05:56PM

Velar is very expensive for what it is I think that’s the main reason it hasn’t sold that well , also smaller than similarly priced stuff but then again RR are expensive across the board !

my wife loved it and we looked at it but ended up going full electric with Audi as RR aren’t there yet.

goochy · 23-10-2022 07:07PM

As it doesn't look like a range rover I don't think it benefits from the Range rover brand name like the sport does

buzzerxx · 23-10-2022 07:12PM

Got a price off spirit in dublin for a basic sevice on my 2l diesel velar

, oil and oil filter only. €690 plus vat. Thats €847. Absolute rip off, over twice whats charged in the UK.

Problem is they have you by the short n curlys cos main dealers are the only ones that can update the online service history.

User1998 · 23-10-2022 07:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119784228#Comment_119784228

I’d try get a price from a Land Rover specialist, or an independent mechanic. Somewhere with a good name that can give you a printed vat invoice so you can build up a decent physical service history without paying €850 every time you need to change the oil.

I couldn’t imagine an oil change being more than €250 inc VAT at a decent independent garage.

Range Rover Velar ignored in Ireland

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