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Range Rover Velar ignored in Ireland

  • 27-09-2021 8:49am
    Registered Users Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭

    Was in Tullamore yesterday and spotted a high spec. Velar with big wheels . Looked very impressive with nearly as much presence as a full fat Range Rover . Got me thinking aside from seeing the odd basic spec. model with small wheels , you dont see many on the road or in dealers showrooms.

    With better looks ( with right spec. ) and a better badge than the Discovery and a similar price , why arent these flying out of the showrooms like say the RR sport is ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,580 ✭✭✭ba_barabus

    The Discovery is more usable for families, its therefore considered expensive for what it is. When you could just pay a little more and have a proper Range Rover.

    Due to taxes, it really doesn't make sense here in Ireland.

  • Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭freddieot

    I had an X5 until a couple of years ago and really liked the look of the Velar and was waiting for it to be released. It looks stunning IMO.

    However, although I don't go up mountain passes. I don't see the logic of not having a rear wash wipe on a vehicle that size and dimensions. In other words, not practical enough. Mate bought a new RR Sport a few days ago and again, even though when buying most of these vehicles, it's s prestige \ heart purchase, it's just a lot more practical that the Velar.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭goochy

    yes but is the Sport not alot more expensive than the Velar ? Dont know what it is , but have never like the current or original Sport model - just think the design is very cluttered.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭goochy

    Yes , i know someone working with them also who says they make them too complicated also ( probably why they drive so well ) , mind you Irish motorists seem to love Land Rovers - there is still good demand for even say 15 year old models .

    Its obviously the image and driving experience that does it for people. Definitely think a well specced Velar beats a RRS for looks / image.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭goochy

    sorry thats not a typo ? 11k more ?

  • Registered Users Posts: 518 ✭✭✭gearoidol

    not a typo ,amazed , went to the garage with a friend who was interested in buying , he purchased a disco commercial , bought velar and defender commercial the same day , incredible trade in value.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭goochy

    i spotted your reg surrounds , that same dealer you bought your current Velar from ? They arent big into used sales - seem to sell most vehicles in the trade.

  • Registered Users Posts: 518 ✭✭✭gearoidol

    have been dealing with that group for a while now ,along way away from me but always seem to get a deal done

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭goochy

    yes i noticed quite a few vehicles in Dublin from them also , so must be doing good deals - just surprised if they are selling off alot of their trade ins.

  • Registered Users Posts: 717 ✭✭✭Robertr

    I was crazy about them on paper, before they came out, but was disappointed when I went to see one. I found them quite small on the inside compared with anything else in the range. Also the pricing was crazy when you spec'd it to look like the launch images.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭goochy

    I assume they have made it small on inside so as not to take away sales from other models they produce

  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭buzzerxx

    How is the new Velar going for you? I have a 2018 rdynamic velar

  • Registered Users Posts: 518 ✭✭✭gearoidol

    It's b

    It's a fab car to be fair,the p400e is a joy, dead silent , fantasticly economical if not doing journeys over 180km in one go too often , new pivi pro has sorted all the infotainment gremlins... Very happy with it

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck

    You say it like it's a bad thing OP? :)

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭California Dreamer

    Another X5 driver here and had the chance to rent a Velar on holidays last year and was sooooooo underwhelming!

    After 4 days I wanted to return it, certainly not a drivers car. Like a hippo on chocolate skates!!!!

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC

    What kind of money are they in any of the spec mentioned here?

    I don't have kids, don't drive a whole pile (<12k km/yr) and like a nice car but I'm always astonished at the amount of these (what I'm assuming are €80/90k+) RR's floating around. I had a loan of a full fat RR Vogue for a weekend a few months back and it was certainly a nice place to sit but the fuel consumption was astonishing.

  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭buzzerxx

  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭buzzerxx

    LOVE THE VELAR SHAPE AND STYLE OVER THE LUMP THAT IS THE X5. Hit dynamic mode and sports on the velar and it stiffens up and shifts i tell you.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭goochy

    cant understand why LR in Ireland at the moment seem to be selling mostly Commercial Discoveries and Defenders , thought there would be decent demand for Hybrid passenger Defenders and Discovery sports etc. and they are higher price vehicles so more profit

  • Registered Users Posts: 50,697 ✭✭✭✭bazz26

    I'd imagine the vast majority are bought or leased through a business, hence why the are commerical. You cannot claim VAT back on petrol or on the price of a passenger vehicle. Hybrids are also not except from BIK.

  • Registered Users Posts: 518 ✭✭✭gearoidol

    I have a defender commercial and my wife has the velar. Pricing is gone weird at the moment and while pricing a new defender commercial for next year,

    i noticed its now cheaper to buy a defender P400e hybrid passenger than a D250 commercial. Main reason is the low vrt rate for hybrids.

    One of the biggest reason over and above being able to claim back vat on vehicle and diesel a company car driver would choose a commercial over a passenger ,is commercials attract a near zero rate of BIK compared to the passenger version. In something the price of a defender ,depending on mileage you could be paying 30k a year on BIK if you want back seats. Also commericals tend to hold their value much better than their passenger versions .

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭goochy

    does your Defender have x3 front seats ? - seems good idea but imagine it takes away from comfort /prestige of a high priced vehicle.

    i am just surprised not to see more passenger LR's around , down Cork direction anyhow

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,404 ✭✭✭✭AMKC

    Maybe it's because they are so boring. It's just far too plain looking.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭goochy

    Not when they are colour coded , have big sized wheels and leather interior. LR products are also rarely boring to drive.

  • Registered Users Posts: 18,882 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus

    Velar is very expensive for what it is I think that’s the main reason it hasn’t sold that well , also smaller than similarly priced stuff but then again RR are expensive across the board !

    my wife loved it and we looked at it but ended up going full electric with Audi as RR aren’t there yet.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭goochy

    As it doesn't look like a range rover I don't think it benefits from the Range rover brand name like the sport does

  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭buzzerxx

    Got a price off spirit in dublin for a basic sevice on my 2l diesel velar

    , oil and oil filter only. €690 plus vat. Thats €847. Absolute rip off, over twice whats charged in the UK.

    Problem is they have you by the short n curlys cos main dealers are the only ones that can update the online service history.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,215 ✭✭✭User1998

    I’d try get a price from a Land Rover specialist, or an independent mechanic. Somewhere with a good name that can give you a printed vat invoice so you can build up a decent physical service history without paying €850 every time you need to change the oil.

    I couldn’t imagine an oil change being more than €250 inc VAT at a decent independent garage.