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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,090 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    So you have gone from... it was a mantra at every NPHET meeting to... Simon Harris at one point in time for which you still have no source... to they didnt say everyone was at equal risk but didnt say they werent.

    I dont know what point you think you are trying to make but all along the way all we see are goalposts shifting.

    Given how much UK media s consumed here it was hardly a big secret was it. Its not The Emergency.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭Doc07


    I used to like this fella, almost relaxing to listen to, nice pace and speaks clearly. Unfortunately he became a malignant Anti-vax crank who makes ever so cryptic yet deliberately misleading remarks and misinterpretations of studies to feed his Anti-vax fans while avoiding YouTube censure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,764 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    It's to keep us all safe. Especially if they expect people to open their homes to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,764 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Whataboutery and moving goalposts again .

    Does India account for all the worlds deaths ?

    Think you'll find the Americas have a fairly big chunk of them too , although India was hit badly by Delta .

    Why ? Not because of lockdowns but because the majority of those poor that you are talking about could not get a vaccine and the government there were exporting vaccines rather than roll it out .

    Vaccination again . Or the lack of it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,764 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Mr Harris! Wow you had to trawl back for that ! That's because he was talking at the very beginning when he was ignorant as were many about what was to come . Remember a lot of confusion at that time ? Covid 17 and 18 ? Same guy , lol .

    And those fetal deaths were recognised stillbirths from Covid placentitits , 6 in fact , which caused a rightfully big upset at the time and also a few very sick pregnant ladies in ICU with Covid .

    You didn't see more thankfully, because there was a major information campaign directed by the maternity hospitals afterwards towards pregnant couples to try to overcome the misinformation and lies about Covid vaccines . And it was successful . There was a very high uptake of vaccination amongst pregnant women after that and we had less of them ending up very sick and in ICU .

    What happened to those people talking about birth defects and infertility from the vaccines after those poor women ended up in ICU ? They disappeared . Started on another group . No shame , no conscience .

    You wanted " cemented " proof ...

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35020786/

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Absolute drivel.

    Lies lies and lies ... how is he anti vax ?

    He is pro vax for those that need it !

    He himself has 3 shots!! - are you serious with that crap above ?


    You don't like him now, because he is not panicking like he was at the start when we knew little - now with massive data he realises what covid is - another flu like illness that we just live with as it's endemic.



  • Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes because of lockdowns. Millions of children and young adults died in India because of the lockdown policies. This is the dirty little secret. COVID is a rich country disease. More than half a million children die from diarrhoea every year due to poor sanitation. No one cares about them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,764 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    They were unvaccinated when Delta hit. Their deaths were way above what is the usual in that country whether we think it's right or not . You are definitely revisionist if you are saying that it wasn't Covid .

    And actually Covid hit low income poorer countries and populations more , because of lack of vaccination as well as access to healthcare .

    No point strawmanning the poor sanitation and lack of funding for healthcare to me ...I could write that book having worked overseas . But in this case I disagree ...it was Covid not dirty water .

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    A lot of people miss the panic and being told what to do and then giving themselves the position to tell everyone else what to, what they should be doing, what they haven't done, how they should do it.

    And by the looks of it their jobs not done yet.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭Doc07


    I never saw any of his panic videos so can’t really comment there.

    I’ve no issue with him or anyone questioning universal vax, boosting etc but the deliberate lying or conveniently only quoting select parts of studies to cause concern and confusion is grossly unprofessional.

    You are probably correct he himself is not anti-vax deep down but he’s seems to have figured out it suits his audience to indulge in thinly veiled anti-vax innuendo.

    I do have an issue with his continued deliberate misrepresentation of studies on his channel. That is not drivel and it’s easy to find lots of examples even as recently as his video on breast milk and mRNA. He plays up to Anti-vax ‘only asking questions’ crowd, very easy to see through it.

    His stuff on Covid symptoms etc still not too bad in fairness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,764 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Yeah you really should stop that . Let people have the correct information and make up their own minds .

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  • Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The central African countries had very low death rates from COVID. Main reason being they had relatively few people over 60. We locked up everyone for a disease that overwhelmingly affects people over 60. And we completely failed to protect them. And we managed to halt screening programmes that saved lives and still the large multinationals were allowed to operate as normal while the small businesses were shut down. Our COVID policy was a hypocritical disaster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,764 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Ok ...which countries ? Central Africa..?

    Have they submitted testing data or regular statistics ?

    Can you say for sure , absolutely 100% , that what you posted there is true and prove it ?

    There are many poorer countries that look like they have lower rates because they weren't testing or recording .

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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭hometruths


    I thought his "Who fact checks the fact checkers" video was very good. The calm, matter of fact manner in which he pointed out the absurdity of facebook factchecking the BMJ spoke volumes about some of the insanity going on.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭Doc07


    Yes some aren’t so bad, which makes it all the more disappointing when he deliberately misleads about studies and trials in other videos



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    That's the best laugh I had in a while, omicron killed off any need for a "vaccine".

    If the fact that Ukraine and other countries with low vaccine uptake haven't turned into one big cesspit of disease riddled zombies without the vaccine, and they are doing just fine (Russian terrorism excepted), what makes you think the vaccine will improve a situation that obviously doesn't need improving?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    I don't think anyone ever claimed that coronavirus lead to the rising of the dead.

    People might not be so willing to take in refugees if they aren't vaccinated. Older people ,people with conditions etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,764 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Yeah . He was fact checked himself by the BBC over repeating an untruth about the numbers of those that died and not clarifying . He was very calm and he apologised and made attempts to take it back and repair the damage , but those untruths and the fact that John Campbell said ...was out there and repeated , and repeated ...

    Dangers of being a YouTube star .

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  • Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That's it isn't it? Anyone who tests positive and then later dies is a "death with COVID". Doesn't matter if they have stage 4 cancer, heart failure or any number of other terminal conditions. The statistics are laughable.

    And as for 100% proof? You can't prove any of your stats either as they are so biased to make COVID look like it's responsible for every death in the last 2 years.

    Dr. Coetzee exposed the lies from South Africa. https://youtu.be/KgMrO9i4sy0



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    No one gives covid a second thought any more, you're putting fear where there isn't fear.

    People with serious conditions, the "Vulnerables", most certainly shouldn't be letting strangers near them, we protected them for long enough and if they haven't learned that lesson by now, well off with them, not our problem.

    But on the off chance people who are that fearful of the covid still exist, then they most likely wouldn't be opening their doors to any strangers, whether they're clean, vaccinated, King Tony disciples, or unclean Ukrainians, so it's a non issue.

    Get your dose of covid now and you're clean for the winter 😁



  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭hometruths


    In fairness the BBC factchecking an individual YouTuber is not quite as alarming as facebook factchecking the British Medical Journal, deeming their content to be harmful and refusing to allow the public to read or share it on their platform.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    "We protected "them" ( members of our communities who are elderly and those who have serious health problems) for long enough"

    How lovely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,090 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Hong Kong was hit hard when Omicron hit a large number of vulnerable people.

    So no, Omicron did not kill off the need for vaccination.

    Putting "vaccine" in quotes is a dead giveaway you're just dog whistling.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    You keep pushing that vaccine rock up that hill, good for you, boards.ie thanks you for your efforts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,971 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I think this winter will be a really tough one for frontline healthcare workers because of Covid and Flu. We still don't have the service to cope with it. A doctor on the radio earlier said that we did get a huge amount of natural immunity over the last 6 months because of the high transmission rates for the latest variants and that will help.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    That's what a lot of people were saying all along, stop telling grown ups what to do. Let people take their own risk assessment s and be trusted to be responsible.

    But it's in vogue for a certain denomination of people to still try to guilt shame individuals who did or didn't draw the line.

    Get vaccinated to protect others who are vaccinated already, and you have a choice but if you don't make the right choice you're a potential killer. Even though 95% of people are protected,and the remaining percentage made a choice which they're entitled to. But their entitlement was the wrong choice. But they have a choice.

    That's the kind of manipulation and head feckery that was going on during the time of confusion.

    A bit like a cult or sociopathic so called spiritual retreat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    Every winter is a tough one for the health service, and it has been that way for years. I can't remember a year when it hasn't been tough.

    No one cared before covid, but then covid came along and we copied the Chinese system of lockdowns & restrictions on the population.

    When they discovered that for the greater good we'd roll over as a population, take their restrictions and ask for more, they now keep that big stick in their back pocket and threaten us with it at will.... stop acting normal and being human or we'll make you wear masks again, you naughty plebs.

    All the time & money that was wasted by almost two years of lockdowns, and nothing has changed, the health service is still in crisis.

    People will get keep getting sick as covid is now endemic, it's not going away, just drop the theatre of restrictions and carry on.... fix the health service and go away with your big sticks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    The problem with the big sticks is they're dished out metaphoric bamboo's to certain people. So instead of them getting the blame, they laid out the ground work

    Through the media and political clout a huge percentage of people decided to give themselves a black belt in Bōjutsu and acted like sensei's.

    It'll be looked back in history as one of the biggest psy-ops in modern times.

    Fortunately for me and my dad we can't get hypnotized, Sinclair tried it on my dad year's ago, I went for hypnotherapy for a surf injury I had at Riley's wave in Clare a few years ago to get me back into the water. The hypnotherapist told me sorry but he can't help me. Now I'm still petrified of swells bigger than 5ft.

    Fear can be crippling and so can post traumatic events.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,544 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    That can't happen unless those people sign a waiver that they won't go for treatment when sick (Ireland has never denied treatment this way). Its why democracies have the idea of the "greater good" enshrined and why things like quarantine exist.

    Look at the USA where all the idiots were screaming for vaccines after getting sick when it was too late and ended up dying on a respirator, 90%+ of those people would have lived if vaccinated. The vast majority wouldn't have needed a hospital bed either reducing the burden on the health system.

    Now, people largely followed the rules in the absence of a mandate, Denmark saw the effects of lockdowns in high infection rate areas before lockdowns were actually implemented, but they can't be relied upon when the alternate is an overrun hospital and people dying unnecessarily and the health system doesn't discriminate so idiot anti-vaxxer loon is just as likely to be treated as triple vaxxed person with underlying condition.

    hypnotherapy is generally a scam and only works if people want it to work, you would need to see a psychiatrist and they'll readily admit that they may not be able to cure you of the phobia.



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