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Which industry has the biggest laugh at their customers' expense?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,088 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Totally…In addition, many consultants are working in both public and private practice.

    I’ve worked for companies who had in their contract, terms which rightly and rigidly prohibited employees from doing ANY paid work for anyone else.

    there is a notable consultant who works in the Mater, Mater private and another privately owned and ran facility …. How exactly is that permitted. ? I view public healthcare patients as customers due to the fact we pay taxes…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Andrea B.



    The consultants have seperate car parks in the private clinics for fear we would see the luxury that they drive to the trough in.

    Sick to teeth hearing their representation claiming more needed to deal with expected Winter covid/flue spike.

    At this stage, thinking outside box, would point to existing disciplines like nurses being trained up to specialist levels to replace those 4 minute day consultant visits.

    Post edited by Andrea B. on


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    The property industry, they unlikely all of the above have managed to convince an entire nation that:

    • That money spent on rent has no value
    • A housing policy based on people taking on huge amounts of debt or relying on social services to put a roof over peoples heads is a good idea
    • That investing in property is a low risk activity despite every piece of investing research showing it to be that opposite
    • That people should break every rule of investing in order to buy a property - don’t invest in a high risk asset class, diversify your holding, don’t borrow to invest etc…
    • They have convinced people that their downfall in 2007 was nothing to do with bad investing choices propagate by them, it was just bad luck, the bankers, bond holders and the government.

    In fact they have done such a good job that people don’t consider any other possible approach to solving the housing crisis but build more houses. And will unhesitatingly defend the policy that best suits the industry.

    I don’t know any other industry that has been so successful in bending an entire population and maintaining it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,364 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    OEM printer manufacturers, your paying more per ml of ink than the finest champagne.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Insurance industry - cartel

    Glasses industry - cartel

    Landlording - if you have your BTL mortgage cleared it's a money printing scheme, so don't bellyache about paying tax on passive income. It's also a heavily protected "asset class" in this country with strong political, legal and constitutional safeguards.

    Chain pizza restaurants like Dominos - awful gloop, ridiculously overpriced. Did a double-take at the prices when the other half wanted to order a delivery the other week.

    Gambling industry - I'd shut this down tommorow if I had my way. Toxic industry that ruins lives and has infected sports like football really badly. Get rid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,088 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    gambling I’d shut down, literally what percentage of customers over a year end up in profit..? a tiny percentage I’d believe. A piss take of a profession, if regulated properly it would be shut down.

    think what the markup on pizza is….

    example…a 13.5 inch Big Brekkie Pizza in one of the more popular pizza places..

    2 mushrooms, 1 sausage, 1 slice of bacon, 2 grams of processed grated cheese, sauce and a bread base.. based on their photo now…

    including delivery.. 26.50…

    no drinks, no sides… just that single pizza… tip the guy ? 30 euros or so down the drain…. About a 5 euro cost tops between product, petrol etc… it’s shît food… never filling….

    much better value in getting a decent half pounder and chips from the local Italian chipper.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭6541


    Great thread - Everywhere I look now I see price gouging and the more threads like this that hopefully open peoples eyes the better. keep it up folks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,673 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Plenty more in the Business Forum. Rip off Ireland, Consumer Affairs, Online Shopping etc. On the other side Bargain Alerts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,673 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Possibly not too well known, but in Ireland there is a Long Term Illness Scheme since 1970 which gives free prescription meds to people with specified medical conditions. The problem is that it never added any new medical conditions to the list as far as I know. So people with things like Crohn's do not qualify. Even better than free medicines with a Medical Card, no 50 cent charge, if that is still a thing. No means test, free to millionaires if they want it.

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/drugs_and_medicines/long_term_illness_scheme.html#:~:text=If%20you%20have%20a%20medical,for%20at%20least%20one%20year.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Organised religion. Charitable status. Cash payments. “Work” maybe an hour a day reading out of a book. Chat to a lot of oul wans for First Friday. More cash. They know it’s all a load of b****x.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Kurooi


    Car insurance. Mandated by law, costs an arm and a leg, and when people get into an accident they will specifically not make a claim OR ELSE.

    Zero actual value-add to society, price hikes constantly based on lies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Also the lads who give the SafePass and other safety courses.

    Tell a class of 20 or 30 people stuff they already know for a few hours, charge them 100-200 a head and their customers are forced to keep showing up every few years if they want to keep their job. The government also limits the number of people who are allowed to give these courses so the crowd who give these courses are absolutely guaranteed a good income



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,864 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Zero value? Who do you think pays for the vast amounts of damage done to people and property by drivers?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Shur no point sitting on he side lines cribbing, get that green jersey on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Institutes of third-level "education".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,462 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    His point is false so I am not sure how that is nit picking. I am sure there are plenty of people who still believe it and think I am the clown. It doesn't change reality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,462 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    I never told anybody where to live SO that is all in your head. Just you don't get to dictate our constitution and if you don't like it you will have to move because it isn't going to change.

    I worked with people on social services and strangely I don't think they are parasites like you. I am not the one telling people how to live it is you.

    I am Irish but never claimed to represent the people but I do know our constitution which you don't. You can be sure more of the tax is mine than yours and I have just as much right as you to complain or applaud how it is spent so we have equal rights. You just don't know what you have a say in. If you don't like the constitution that will remain your problem



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    Coffee shops


    The increase lately in the price of a cup of coffee is beyond a joke



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,623 ✭✭✭maninasia


    You told me to move I'm not moving anyhwee certainly not for some eejit who insists there only viewpoint to being Irish .

    We don't have a constitution that forces us to pay humungous taxes really not sure what you are waffling on about. You are just typical of those who like to tell others they are 'wrong' or 'bad people' because they don't agree with you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    The Department of Public Expenditure and Reform



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,462 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Again I never said my view point is the only valid one and said the opposite that our votes are equal. The constitution stands and if you don't like it and want something else you would need to move. Your choice but screaming about social services and what they pay for means nothing. You want to live by different rules but the constitution is there stopping what you want.

    Again want to say what percentage of your income is taxed? You proved yourself ignorant of what tax % you pay. You were wrong that is no way my fault. Not sure where I said bad people so I think you made that up. It is no way my fault you are ignorant as you have made the choice not to look up taxes nor our constitution so it is wilful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,414 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Supplements industry in general, mostly snake oil.

    MasteryDarts Ireland - Master your game!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Sounds like something a shill for big-pharma would say, I've got a tincture of turmeric in my pantry that will sort you out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,504 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    If you don't tell him he is right then he will keep repeating his irrelevant nonsense and kill the thread. Best just to roll your eyes and move on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,743 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Alcohol, same reason (ok, maybe without the bets)

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    religion



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    and/or mayo football



  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭seablue


    Broadband/tv/phone providers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    I worked in this one and I don't think too many are laughing too hard. There are too many middlemen, if you sign up with sky broadband, they are only reselling BT who are in turn using Telecom Eireann's network. The likes of Sky are only a buffer between british telecom and the pesky broadband customers who call up complaining and don't pay their bill, they probably make less than 10e per customer per month doing this. BT might be having a bit of a laugh alright but Telecom Eireann has to keep the network alive although a lot of that is done by KN network services



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,088 ✭✭✭✭Strumms



    I just checked a price for going a regular journey just under 7.5 kilometers, pre booked for 2 passengers.

    16.40-23.60 euros according to the fare estimator gizmo on the transport for Ireland site.

    A 43.9% difference in the lower and higher estimated fare values which is laughable, might as well be picking numbers out of their arseholes.

    I gave them the eircode of my location for pickup and the destination yet they give a ‘blahhh could be anything’ answer.

    Always thought the pre-booking charge is an absolute scam too. You’d rather a taxi drive scouting around burning diesel or petrol looking for a fare, or parked up, with the only inconvenience an individual having to take a booking, via app or phone a 45 second job..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Kurooi


    If a scumbag runs me over or dents my car, 9 in 10 cases they didn't have insurance.

    If somebody insured does, they will pay out of pocket, because they're blackmailed to by the insurance industry.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    And in the South - for the 33% of the population with Medical Cards or an LTI book.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,673 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Once the higher price is not above the legal maximum then all is good. Competition kicks in, and you can choose whichever you want. What would be a disgrace is if traders were organising a price fixing cartel.

    https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2022/si/293/made/en/print



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,864 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,958 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    And because the margins are so small their call centre staff are underpaid and overworked



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,666 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    The charity industry in Ireland, probably laughs more at the gullible public who give them money hand over fist tbf.

    No interest in stopping the cycle, sure they'd be out of business.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,161 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Tesla.

    In 2016 one of their cars was going to self drive from one coast of the US to the other. It's now approaching 2023.

    Then: Tesla: We’ll Have Full Self-Driving by 2020. Robo-Taxis, Too. ...Musk Says ‘Full Self-Driving’ May Be ‘Worth’ $100,000 - because of course your car will be off pimping itself as a ride for hire while you are sleeping, or while you are at work, so it will actually be making money for you so you should grab one now while they are still so cheap. It's now approaching 2023.

    Every TESLA made has all the hardware for full self driving built in, so when the software arrives, every TESLA made will be able to have it - but please don't ask any awkward questions about the new processor. It's now approaching 2023.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,525 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    But nobody is buying Teslas expecting them to be self driving?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,623 ✭✭✭maninasia


    How can you choose between competitors if they won't give you a clear fare price in advance?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,864 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Yeah, they’re just like all those doctors and nurses that have no interest in stopping the cycle of people getting sick, the utter barstewards.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,161 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    If you say so.

    “It’s financially insane to buy anything other than a Tesla,” Musk said. “It’ll be like owning a horse in three years.”

    Tesla forecasted the robo-taxis would last 11 years, drive 1 million miles and make $30,000 gross profit per car annually.

    That must have been because Elon Crook didn't think anyone would belive him and buy any Teslas, or shares in the company...

    Elon Musk spearheaded a $2.7 billion capital raise at Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) based on the claim that the company will have 1 million robo-taxis on the road by 2020.

    Must be just sheer coincidence that the Tesla share price sky rocketed in 2019 after his announcements and got just over the line so he would qualify for the biggest CEO bonus in history.

    Tesla CEO Elon Musk is close to securing the second tranche of his $55 billion bonus package following the company’s astronomical share price rise, which if reached, will see him to gain an extra $2.1 billion through a newly released 1.69 billion stock options...Musk's $55 billion compensation package is the largest such performance-related pay deal ever agreed between a CEO and a board.

    When did Tesla's valuation have to be over $100 billion for him to qualify for the first big Bonus? Why end of May 2019. When did Crook announce the FSD money making robo taxi by the end of the year BS, why April 2019. Pure coincidence of course, he wasn't deliberately lying to get the share price to climb so he could collect that fat bonus, oh no, pure coincidence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,666 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Way to go to miss the point.

    Google 'Irish charity' and 'scandal', plenty of food for thought for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭Quags


    Catholic Church an the famous money boxes that get passed around to keep the roof fixes or heating on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,673 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The post I answered was very clear. Low quote €16.40, high quote €23.60, a difference of 43.9%. In your case you will just have to choose from the unclear prices you get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,805 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    To directly answer the question, it has to be the gambling industry.

    It's their objective to take your money, and they don't give anything in return (funny tweets aside), they just facilitate your loss*.

    They're eveywhere too. All over sport (ad-breaks, jersey sponsors, ad breaks, pitch boards, ad breaks) And on laughing, I've seen Jeff Stelling promoting SkyBet during ad breaks for The Office.

    Helps that they've pretty much got free reign to do whatever they want in Ireland too. Regulation non-existent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Insurance industry and the legal profession no question


    Now, mods, you can close this thread



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,623 ✭✭✭maninasia


    I've been away years and am astonished at the number of betting shops and now casinos over the length and breadth of Ireland. That doesn't even cover online gambling obviously. Bit of a shocker and I feel really bad for the gambling addicts out there, no escape.

    Besides, they aren't even proper casinos and entertainment venues like you might see in Las Vegas or Macau.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    You can tap you card now going in the door. I **** you not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭radiotrickster


    The ‘downloadables’ industry. People are buying journals for €15+ to print out themselves at home or use on tablets.

    The only cost for the seller is the time designing it and taking two minutes to email it on (but there’s probably automated software available for that). Maybe time for marketing to start with but once you’re doing well on Etsy, you’ll show up high in the search results anyway.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭sprucemoose


    eh, show some evidence of this please. pretty sure thats a rubbish claim



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