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F1 2022 thread - see post 1 for rules

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,017 ✭✭✭✭PsychoPete


    I was hoping to see them use a different livery this weekend, I did like the white livery last year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,669 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


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    this was shared on Reddit after they visited the Honda factory. So the HRC on the nose and Honda on the cover.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 36,817 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


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    History to repeat itself?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,569 ✭✭✭recyclebin


    Hill was champion in Suzuka in 1996 AFAIK! Suzuka used to be last race of season and many championships were decided there.

    https://gpracingstats.com/circuits/suzuka/

    Suzuka has hosted the following championship title deciders:

    Drivers’ title

    1. 1987:  Nelson Piquet (3rd title)
    2. 1988:  Ayrton Senna (1st title)
    3. 1989:  Alain Prost (3rd title)
    4. 1990:  Ayrton Senna (2nd title)
    5. 1991:  Ayrton Senna (3rd title)
    6. 1996:  Damon Hill (1st title)
    7. 1998:  Mika Hakkinen (1st title)
    8. 1999:  Mika Hakkinen (2nd title)
    9. 2000:  Michael Schumacher (3rd title)
    10. 2003:  Michael Schumacher (6th title)
    11. 2011:  Sebastian Vettel (2nd title)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,635 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Of course all other teams could see what hr was doing. That doesn't take from the point that they left him out to know when to switch Hamilton to slicks. Losing nearly 10seconds a lap isn't a gamble. It means you lose the equivalent to a pitstop in less than 4 laps. Thatsnot a gamble, that's a sure bet (that it's the wrong tyre). Do you honestly think that they thought George would make up the 50 seconds to Magnussen and the other teams wouldn't notice and also pit for slicks. Meaning Georgs would be on old slicks and everyone else on mew slicks and he'd still be 20 seconds behind Magnussen.

    How has nobody called out this shambolic strategically inept set of decisions by Mercedes? If Ferrari did this, it would be called out as an enormous mistake. But it wasn't a catastrophic mistake because they left him out to do little more than gather data on conditions.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,868 ✭✭✭bennyx_o


    Russell wasn't left out there by Mercedes to know when to switch Hamilton to slicks - he came on the team radio and said he was sticking with them. Did it help Hamilton? Absolutely, but going by the radio call, he wasn't left out by Mercedes. You also need to factor in where Russell was in 15th when he pitted for slicks and made it up to 11th before his puncture while trying to overtake Schumacher to make it into the points. Given he started from the pits, I would imagine finishing in the points would have been the primary goal which he nearly got.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    Suzuka was the last race from 1996, before that Adelaide was last, with Suzuka usually second last.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,669 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Your point makes zero sense. How does it benefit Hamilton if Russell was left out if all the other teams could benefit from it too? That’s like playing cards and your opponents seeing what you have. And he asked to stay out, the time he was losing was not 10 seconds each lap, it was getting better and better, he was just the wrong side of the cut off time.

    He would also have the tires up to temp, so he would have been much faster had it worked for him, along with the gamble on an SC to bring him back into it all.

    Your conspiracy makes no sense at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,669 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


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    And Honda are back…but never actually left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭quokula


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    sums it up



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,990 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Honda have this time finally by the skin of their teeth avoided their usual jumping ship after spending all the money just before it pays off.

    This could yet turn into a massive run of world championships for them after the hopeless McLaren years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,167 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I would say that is what they are hoping for alright.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,669 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Gasly to Alpine confirmed. Multiple year deal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,669 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    And De Vries for Alpha Taurie.


    I got to announce the double whammy in here cause all you saps are asleep! Finally, living in Canada comes good!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    2 seats left to fill so, Haas and Williams. Haas apparently will be either Mick or Nico Hulkenberg, and can't see Mick having helped himself by breaking his car again yesterday.

    And Williams apparently have either Logan Sargeant or Jack Doohan lined up. So no more Danny Ric...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Mick binned it in practice and missed a whole session, still managed to beat his teammate, That's a decent recovery.

    What I don't understand is why Hulk is linked to all the seats. Been there done that, time for something new comes to mind



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,635 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Hulk is 35 years old. Doesn't make sense to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,167 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Yes Danial would be the safer and better driver to have in that seat. Hulk had his chances and binned them. He is a great reserve driver but that's it.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭thefa


    If finances are a factor, not sure Ricciardo would be as quick to take a haircut to Hulkenbergs level even with his form.



    Looking forward to Gasly v Ocon. Gasly was getting a lot of plaudits a couple of seasons back off the back of 2020 when the midfield was a lot closely packed with talk of him deserving a better drive. AT took a step back with the new regs and I don’t think he’s been as consistent either with Yuki not being a strong litmus test to comparison. Interesting to see how the dynamic of him and Ocon works out. Would rank Ocon somewhere near the middle of drivers ability wise so interested to see how it goes. Ocon should have an advantage for the first year at least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,635 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    The Danniel Ricciardo experiment has been run too. He's out because nobody wants him. Lots of teams had vacancies and none of them have chosen to give him a seat. Time to let him go.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,017 ✭✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Ricciardo said himself he doesn't be on the grid next year. He's had his good times in F1, he's good craic to have around but F1 is a results sport and he isn't up to scratch for what it would cost to sign him. Maybe a back marker team will want him but it's hard to see him staying in the sport



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Alpine paying $10m to Alpha Tauri to get Gasly apparently



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,635 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Thsts great business for AT. They don't really want Gasley and now they're being paid for him to leave.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭Ryano87


    Max just announced world Champion 🏆



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,569 ✭✭✭recyclebin


    Wins championship on a Sunday, massive financial penalty for 2023 on a Monday?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,045 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Bringing the "tractor on track" discussion over here because it's more of a general issue rather than Japanese GP specific. For me personally, the main problem is that, like with any motorway maintenance equipment in fairness, any vehicle that is authorised to enter the track should be lit up like a Christmas tree. It's the lack of lighting on the tractor that's the problem. For instance if there's a serious incident at Blanchimont near the end of the lap at Spa requiring a speedy extraction to save a driver, you could be waiting over 2 minutes for a car that had just gone through La Source to get around, past the incident and get back to the pits. Do you really just wait behind the barriers for that? Hi viz is crucial to motorway maintenance and should be better here.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Justifiably angry Gasly interview...

    You'd imagine FIA will hope this is forgotten about with World champion and the finance stuff tomorrow, but I doubt the drivers will let it slide...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    You'd think that the Suzuka authorities would've learnt their lessons following the previous meeting of an F1 driver and one of their tractors



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,484 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Not sure I agree that it was a lack of lighting on the tractor that was the main problem - for sure more lights on those types of vehicles can only be a benefit - but it shouldn't have been there in the first place, same goes for the marshal. Not at that moment in those conditions.

    More lights might have made Gasly slow down a bit but what if he still lost control and crashed into it or the marshal? If a driver extraction was necessary then you'd have a medical car there before any heavy lifting machines would be on the scene, and presumably all drivers notified there's vehicles on track, red flag, slow right down etc.

    I'm not sure what the solution is, maybe when it's in conditions like today and race control see a car has crashed and is sitting on the track then red flag it immediately. Let the drivers know a car is on track and where and to slow right down. I see the FIA are going to investigate it now (wonder how much of that is due to outside pressure) so it will be interesting to see what findings they make. For sure something has to change to stop that happening again.



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