Cycle infrastructure planned for south Dublin

I didn't see anything apart from the very large sign coming from Irishtown which has been there for a week or two.

I cannot believe how powerful the water lobby are getting this pushed through without any consultation!

Reminds me of a comment I saw in response to proposed cycle lane by the school my kid goes to school along the Ballycullen Road.

The road is 2 lanes plus central hatching that's almost a lane wide, so plan is to realign to remove the hatching.

I'm paraphrasing but the comment went like "that road is bad at the moment with cars illegally parking to drop off at school collection times, but you can safely pass them by, if the hatching is removed then it will be too dangerous trying to pass the cars when going uphill into a bend, so I don't think they should build the cycle lanes... "

The level of self awareness of people astounds me some times!

Ah it's bonkers, we cycle to school every day since she started. It's 1.4km each way on a bike, and takes easily 1/2 the time if not less than the 2km each way less direct drive.

Yet without fail, the other 6 kids in her class who live in the neighbouring houses are each driven in seperate cars each day, and then each car returns for the parents to WFH.

Apparently nobody has the time in the mornings when I've suggested group walk/cycles...

Yes. Chapel Avenue in particular being a choke point.

My all time favourite NIMBY submission was one received trying to block the Royal Canal Greenway near the Deep Sinking on the grounds that Japanese hogweed? or some similar invasive species would invade the area because of the proposed works. The Day of the Triffids hits Delwood.

I couldn't give a **** how they parent to be fair, not my problem, unless they are promoting anti-social behaviour that does impact on me/mine.

However to the point - I'd suggested it once or twice in conversation (you know that thing people do outside boards.ie) with neighbours I'm friendly with and meet daily... That have no mobility issues... Nor their kids have... That it'd be nice to have a group walking/cycling to school to take pressure off everyone each morning. Give the kids some independence, and then when they are 8 (schools rule for unaccompanied travel) they can do the journey themselves. All you need is 1 or 2 parents now to mind several kids on the walk not every parent every day.

Their kids are all for it as they get to hang out with friends and mess before school on the way. The parents think it's too far for kids to walk/cycle, too dangerous, too wet, too cold, too tiring, too much hassle, too long etc etc etc

Jesus, a rotating car pool of 2 cars for 7 kids who live within 20m of each other would be better than 7 cars each making a return route of 4k and adding further congestion to the M50 link road for nothing other than pure laziness and convenience.

My point that clearly went over your head is nobody has time to do walk/cycle because they are too busy, yet will happily crawl through traffic and spend multiples of that time for a short local journey, or wouldn't consider the idea of 1 morning where they walk and get the other 4 back when another parent takes the group. That is what is bonkers.

And so you don't think I'm a raging hypocrite, yes I also drive that journey on occasion such as only this morning when it was pissing down which makes it the 2nd day since Sept I think.

part of the problem is the ridiculous weight of stuff kids have to bring to school - schools could help by providing lockers; book publishers could help by not putting the entire junior cert syllabus into one enormous book that kids then have to carry into school every day for 3 years.

Even with many schools now using iPads/tablets teachers often insist that kids bring the book in as well in case there's a problem with the tech, so now they're carrying all their books, and an iPad. Plus sports gear and any other stuff they need for extra-curricular activities. I've tried encouraging mine to cycle but their objection is that it's too awkward with a 15kg schoolbag, hockey bag, guitar or whatever.

For a basket you'd need a dutch-style bike with a solid basket anchored to the forks. taking my son's enormous school bag as an example, you could possible bungee it to a back rack but it would be difficult to get it secure and not moving around (and most kids are riding MTBs that can be tricky to put a rack onto).

The kids I do see cycling to school just have a bag on their back - I suspect they're more organised than he is in terms of which books they bring on each day, which they leave in their lockers etc. It's just one aspect though - if there were proper cycle lanes for accessing the school people might put a bit of time into thinking of how best to setup their bikes for schoolbags, but without them they just go, feck it, we'll drive.

They can just go around, surely?

Also the little cottages across the road, people just park their cars right outside them on the footpath.

Is Bus Connects going to widen the bus lane along here does anyone know?

has planning permission been granted? when are they supposed to start construction do you know?

wow, cycle track all the way, I assume it's segregated. I still think bus lanes are pointless without enforcement though.

There were dire predictions that if Strand Road was restricted, the surrounding streets would be choked with traffic,.... but it hasn’t happened – the traffic has dissipated.”

Who'da thunk it

Surely this can count as the trial to see if the whole world falls apart if its made one way? The whole thing is so ridiculous.

Any update on Deansgrange? The representatives that were all for the graveyard "solution" over 1 way, are now backing away from that and going to vote it down last I read!?!

Thats now how it works and you know that.

Not sure why you would say "pretty much a certainty", when the handful of locals who have taken this particular action are a tiny minority even locally.

Strand Road is an important regional economic route, that won't change.