Motor Tax

The only change that should be made to motor tax is make it cheaper

Oh look, the annaul silly thread before budget is back.

The current system was introduced by the Green Party when they were last in government. They somehow believed that diesel was good for the environment!!!

I believe in the user/polluter pays principal, so car tax should be moved to fuel, be it fossil or electric.

I think they should put a huge tax on EV’s because their owners have huge egos, are knobs and obviously have too much money.

I don't need to try anything. Your the one trying very hard every year starting these very same threads.

I'ts like a broken record at this point, the same whing in the form of a new thread over and over again. People have enough hardship with energy bills and high inflation this winter without some busy body who obviously lives a sheltered and uneventful life, trying to force the cost of their ideologies on them. We already have an idiot like that as Minister for Transport.

Do you even own a car or do you even drive the one you have?

It works for me, and I pay it.

Who are all these staff you talk about? I haven’t interacted with a staff member in the motor tax office for over 20 years. And that having bought new cars, imported cars and commercial vehicles over that time.

You must be doing something wrong.

It’s all automated.

AnPost is government owned, so it’s cost neutral.

But not the postage?

Your gripe has changed significantly since your OP.

Methinks you haven’t really thought it through, despite having tried for years.

You've no reasoned argument yourself. You just want to put the burden on other drivers. EVs carry a large environmental cost themselves and use infrastructure that costs money. The motor tax system is far from perfect but it does not involve a lot of staff nowadays at all. It's now a very slick automated system.

It appears only opinions meeting your own are considered reasoned though.

You're still excluding EVs to suit yourself. It's a Motor Tax, not a Carbon Tax. Fuels are already heavily taxed. Fine abolish it but you can't make up the shortfall by giving EV a free ride.

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I'll leave you to work out the details and lobby for this stupendous change.

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Fossil fuel electric to be taxed more... Sounds like someone living at home with mommy and daddy who pay the bills.

Ahh now you're on a different tack. No paper disk is a direction we should be able to go. Not taxing your EV is a different matter.

So talk is only reasonable and a debate when it's inline with your way of thinking?

I think you need to take some of your own advise then as your annual suggestions and figures read like something pulled from a certain part of the anatomy.

That's right but with the high rate of tax most of them won't have a chance to make it and will be scrapped prematurely.

A 2litre will pay €10,650 tax in the next 15 years, more if you can't pay annually.

This thread is a bag of b*llsh*t, from the 1st post.

Anyone with an ounce of decency knows that the polluter should pay. And that should be softened where, despite the best will in the world, car owners who cannot afford to, or its a poor decision to, change their car to electric, should not be punished for merely owning it ala standing charge /motor tax.

Virtue signalling should cost proper money too. The solution is to cut down our mileage and stupid lifestyles, not punish legacy frugal ICE owners. Less playdates and under 12 cross county games FFS. Responsible living and low charges for sh1t unless you USE it. That includes roads, not just fuel. Hence motor tax, and EVs should be salted with that.

More likely it’ll be added to fuel and increased on engines to cushion any emerging shortfall as more people switch over to electric.

Seems to me that the grant is almost being treated as something separate to the actual price of new EVs, a cash transfer to people buying new EVs rather than something that reduces the price of the car. IMO new EVs should be listed net of grant just as they are listed gross of Vrt.

It's Motor Tax and whether.