F1 2022 thread - see post 1 for rules

dulpit · 08-09-2022 09:35AM

So if you buy tickets first they'll be cheapest and increase from then on? Bonkers..

McFly85 · 08-09-2022 09:46AM

That seems like it should be illegal.

They know they’ll sell out Silverstone so why not just have a set price?

duploelabs · 08-09-2022 10:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119588381#Comment_119588381

Because it seems like they've cash flow struggles. Get the revenue in good and early means they can commit to their spend on 2023

flazio · 08-09-2022 10:07AM

Suzi was never part of free practice coverage (neither was Steve Jones usually) I'm thinking it might have been USA 2015 which was a washout until Sunday. It was a highlights weekend and Suzi had to go on BBC Two live to explain why there wasn't any highlights.

quokula · 08-09-2022 11:09AM

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It's precisely because they know they will sell out that they will set the price as high as they can possibly get away with, and changing the price in real time based on demand is one way to do that. Telling people they need to buy early before prices go up is a sure fire way to make prices go up too.

It's pretty anti-consumer but from their point of view why wouldn't they make as much money as they can as long as there are no regulations to stop them. And you could argue that if they don't do it themselves then scalpers will.

It could have repercussions long term of course. I was reading an article recently about the Miami GP where the prices were astronomical, and it basically became an event for rich people to go party where the focal point became the concerts and the fake marina and all the rest, while the actual F1 race was incidental in the background. Some are concerned this will do nothing for F1 to actually cement its place in the US and you could see the same eventually happening in Europe if regular fans get priced out of attending.

AMKC · 08-09-2022 11:15AM

Lol

Wanderer78 · 08-09-2022 11:16AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119588334#Comment_119588334

ah shur best of luck to them, nothing like fcuking over your own fans, always works out in the long run!

McFly85 · 08-09-2022 11:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119588789#Comment_119588789

I suppose. I think it would put me off going to Silverstone at all, and I’d look to book somewhere else - if I couldn’t get tickets early then I’d pretty much immediately feel ripped off.

There’s plenty of scope in F1 for reasonable tickets for fans while also bleeding rich folks dry. At Zandvoort last week, you could see a lot of the areas the paddock pass(€5k a pop) would get you. Fancy bars, great seats, and in one of the more bizarre events of the weekend, 4 trucks with filled with people who bought these tickets in the back doing a lap of the track and waving to the crowd.

But if you wanted a good seat and easy access to food and drink it was fairly reasonable.

The US I suppose is a different beast. It’s all about finding ways to bleed everyone dry. I bet Vegas next year will be eye-wateringly expensive.

Jordan 199 · 08-09-2022 01:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119580876#Comment_119580876

Here's the flag:

I have had this flag for 22 years.

eeepaulo · 08-09-2022 02:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119588477#Comment_119588477

Found it, YEAY,

Belgian Grand Prix: Sudden downpour soaks BBC F1 crew - BBC Sport

Although it says it's not available on my device so i can't view it, tried with a UK VPN the same.

I dont think it is the whole thing, i remember there being a scene where they get soaked, then cut to her later and she is shivering hair plastered to her face and commentating like a pro, coulthard stook there like a class act totally dry.

Anyone got the full qually bbc show?

Captain_Crash · 08-09-2022 05:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119589544#Comment_119589544

Have the same one! Or had it atleast. Lost if after a move about 7 or 8 years ago

Idleater · 08-09-2022 06:58PM

Nice, I have a mahassive Ferrari flag still that I got as a Christmas present in 95/6 and I still have my Minardi cap in regular use.

We were on family holiday in France when Total sponsored Jordan (93/4?). For some x number of petrol tokens you got a JordanGP tshirt. Anyway, we stopped at some random petrol station, myself and the aulfella professed our Irishness (and the French GP (magny cours) was on that weekend and we got the tshirt on the house (the garage owner was more pleased to talk f1 and Jordan than care about Total's purchase policy)

Jordan 199 · 08-09-2022 07:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119591574#Comment_119591574

Total were the title sponsor of Jordan in 1995. They continued to supply Jordan up to and including the 1997 season.

quokula · 09-09-2022 10:36AM

So Porsche have officially pulled out of their intentions to enter F1 with Red Bull. It seems they'd wanted to go all in as 50/50 partners and that was on the cards a few months ago, but Red Bull themselves got cold feet amid growing confidence they can go it alone with Red Bull Powertrains.

So rather than becoming a full Porsche works team, Red Bull are instead looking for something more like an Alfa Romeo style deal that could involve branding and a technical partnership with a manufacturer that doesn't sacrifice their independence. A return to full Honda badging while developing the next iteration of the engine themselves seems like an obvious conclusion.

Porsche say the sport still looks attractive with the new regulations, but haven't made any other commitments. I'm sure it will take time for them to evaluate what other possibilities exist. F1 really needs to get back to the 26 car grids that used to be the norm, so I hope they consider starting from scratch, or maybe partnering with Andretti or something like that, but the sport seems openly hostile to actual new teams joining for some reason.

donspeekinglesh · 09-09-2022 11:28AM

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I have the same one somewhere. can't remember exactly when I bought it, but it is (just about) visible on the TV coverage of the 2004 Hungarian GP.

recyclebin · 09-09-2022 01:43PM

We could end up with 7 engine manufacturers if all the rumours are to be believed:

Ferrari

Mercedes

Renault

Honda

Red Bull

Audi

Porsche.

It would make sense for Honda and Red Bull to continue collaborating in 2026. Same for Audi and Porsche, although VAG may have sold off Porsche by 2026.

El_Duderino 09 · 09-09-2022 05:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119595315#Comment_119595315

I don't think anyone has suggested Audi will build engines. They were going to buy some team and use Porsche engines. Porsche pulling out doesn't mean Audi will build engines.

Doubtful that both Porsche and Audi would build engines even if they were both involved in the sport.

flazio · 09-09-2022 05:29PM

Really? I thought Audi were coming in to build power trains.

bennyx_o · 09-09-2022 05:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119596418#Comment_119596418

They are. The first line of this article confirms this

dulpit · 09-09-2022 06:20PM

Audi are using a Porsche built engine as the starting point, but they will be proper manufacturers. I'm less interested in the number of manufacturers though and more interested in the number of teams. Really could do with 1 or 2 more... With the cost cap though, it just means less profit for the existing 10 to admit any more, so a hard sell for them...

El_Duderino 09 · 10-09-2022 09:28AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119596427#Comment_119596427

Yeah fair enough. I thought they were going to buy and own a team and use Porsche engines. Thanks for the link.

Good podcast by The-Race explaining the porsche deal collapse

[The Race F1 Podcast] Why Porsche has called off F1 move...for now #theRaceF1Podcast

https://podcastaddict.com/episode/144956298 via @PodcastAddict

dulpit · 10-09-2022 10:33AM

The race podcast is usually excellent alright...

AMKC · 10-09-2022 11:35AM

Dam Sky anyway. I thought with the Queens death and all sports being called off they might just show this weekends F1 live on Sky Showcase seen as there is no sports on and what a great time to get more people into it but no what do they have instead more just filler on 😞 .

dulpit · 11-09-2022 09:33AM

Alpine are deluded at this stage in not seeing their flaws with the Piastri negotiations...

https://the-race.com/formula-1/alpine-piastri-wrong-to-snub-williams-doesnt-share-values/

McFly85 · 11-09-2022 12:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119602274#Comment_119602274

Kind of deluded as to where Alpine are too.

He referenced Max, Charles and George as people who did it “the right way” by doing a developmental year or two at a lower team, but all of them knew they were looking at a top tier seat after it.

Piastri was told to drive at arguably the slowest team before going to a mid team, or go to a mid team now. It’s fairly different.

quokula · 12-09-2022 03:00PM

It seems there were complications with Albon’s appendix surgery and he even ended up in intensive car for a night. Recovering now, I hope he’s given plenty of time to recover fully while Devries can keep his seat warm. And hope to see the two of them as teammates when Latifi gets the boot.