Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

Can we not get distracted with this argument. I don't have a major issue with the pedestrian crossings. It was merely a statement that I feel the North Strand is not friendly to pedestrians.

If you sit outside Cloud Cafe for lunch, you might get a sense of what I mean. You frequently see pedestrians running across the wide 4-lane road getting to the main row of shops there.

But this is not what worth discussing as part of the permanent removal of bus stops which is my main issue.

Your use of language such as lazy bastards to refer to the locals who drink in Cusacks says all it needs to say about your character and attitude to residents of this area.

By your logic, we could just remove a third of the bus stops in Dublin. Sure then a a third have to walk "a little further" but sure 100s of thousands would benefit from quicker journeys.

Anyway, I've raised this matter with a number of councillors and TDs and a number of them have already responded. Councillor Burke was strongly vocal of these plans at the time of planning, including removal of bus stops but was ignored. Another councillor has received numerous contacts today from concerned residents regarding the matter. So we'll wait and see what happens.

Yeah I would like to think it's changed in recent times, but it was always 60km/h along Fairview Strand reducing to 50km/h at the Fire Station. There is one of those flashing speed signs at the start of North Strand showing your speed.

Drivers definitely speed through North Strand. The area, including Fairview, have never been treated a village which, in my opinion, have made them pedestrian unfriendly. They are dominated by heavy road traffic. Let's hope the cycleway will change that regardless of the bus stop locations.

If you're standing where the bus stop "used to be" and new nearest one is 300m either side of you, then it's an extra 300m. Don't know where you're getting 100m.

Neither does London, but they do have a full set of best practice guidelines. Or do we just make up as we go along?

No I throw a strop when DCC remove bus stops in my area that go against best practice guidelines.

Best practice guidelines are not just pulled out of someone's arse. They are based on actual research and studies on how humans interact with the world. Going against public transport best practice guidelines when we're trying to encourage out of cars is insane.

AND IT'S THRRE HUNDRED GOD DAMN METRES NOT TWO.

The proposed bus stops are 600m apart, 586m and 592m to be exact.

Not 300m as you keep insisting. Can you read any of the docs please? Or simply look at the image I've very kindly marked up, just in case it's difficult for you to understand.

Let’s all admit it. It’s so much easier to jump in your car outside your house than walk to a bus stop.

€63million wasted! 😲🙄😋

Most people live 2-300m from the top of the street, so the max distance you might have to walk is over 600m. By your logic, an elderly person would take 16minutes to get to the bus.

Look at a map and consider anyone living on Bayview, Charleville, Bessborough, Strandville Ave or Stoney Road.

He'll no doubt have his good buddy, angry little Mannix, on to rant and rave about all things cycling related.