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1967 VW Variant.

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    I ran the rebuilt engine in the car today, and its a better starter than my own white fastback. I noticed that the generator light was on constantly, so I checked it out. I thought it might be that the dynamo needed to be polarised to suit electrics. It was a common thing when dynamos gave trouble, and was a quick process to do on the generator terminals.

    I did that, but the light remained on and no charge at the battery. So out with the multimeter, and a quick check showed that the dynamo was putting out .5 volts. So it needed a specialist to check it out. Dropped it into Tullamore, and will get the verdict tomorrow. I could have gone for a replacement, but at the moment I would like to stick to original.



  • Registered Users Posts: 27 BbSean


    Karma, is there a possibility of getting the coil rewound for the dynamo? Not sure if it is a thing anymore but at least it would still be an original, if only a repaired original.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Thats exactly what I am thinking. I would hope that its repairable. But the original starter motor blew segments out of the commutator when it got the amps on it from start up. Repair guy said that the old resin adhesives on the motor and the insulation failed after all the years lying up.Hopefully its not the same with the generator. Fingers crossed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,339 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Did you open the dynamo, check the brushes etc?



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Yep. The brushes are good, and the commutator is clean and in good fettle. I checked across it with the multimeter and got .5 volt output where there should be 20+ volts at high revs. I never opened the dynamo, but I suspect a short in the windings, thats why I put it into a good spot for repairs. I will know this morning.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,339 ✭✭✭jmreire


    My God,,,,,talking about Dynamo's. I remember working on 6v ones !!! And the Aunts VW was the one with the split rear window.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Just heard back from the dynamo specialist. The armature has a major fault and cannot be repaired. Only option is to find a replacement armature, or a replacement dynamo, or a new unit.

    Not a problem as I have an earlier replacement dynamo, with the threaded pole connections. I will check its out put later today.



  • Registered Users Posts: 27 BbSean


    sorry to hear that but it was worth a shot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 27 BbSean


    Double post 🙈



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Not a major problem, its not like they are not available, so it wont stop me driving it when the mechanics are in good fettle.



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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    I checked my earlier dynamo, probably early 60's. But brushes are well shot and armature a bit shabby looking.

    So I took the good brushes from the damaged dynamo. Pulled out the bad brushes from the early dynamo and gave the armature a good clean and paid particular attention to where the brushes seat.

    Re assembled the early dynamo, and checked it on the bench. And its working well. I will re fit it tomorrow.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    New dynamo is up on 700 euro from uk before customs ect😯



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    So back to work on my Variant since the engine rebuild. As I needed to be able to move it in and out of the shed for work, I had no choice but to fix the brakes first. I stripped and rebuilt the front calipers and fitted new hoses. I also replaced all the lines with new brakelines that I made and flared myself. And then to the rear drums. Both wheel cylinders were seized, so had to be stripped, cleaned along with all the adjustors that were welded together with rust.

    And lastly the drivers side hub was seized and would not release from the hub no matter what amount of hammering took place. To buy a new larger hub puller was over 700 euro. So I made one.


    I used a VW Beetle rim that I knew would bolt on, and a scaffold adjustable foot lift, that could take the brute force needed.The parts I needed.

    Welded up and ready to fit on the hub.


    And fitted and ready for the big pull.

    A bit of effort and hey presto,


    And now I can crack on with the brakes.





  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    I got the final drum sorted and now I have brakes so I can safely manouvre around the house.

    Next was to tackle the surface rust on the roof, front hood and wings so that they dont get any worse than they are.

    I had considered a rat look finish to lessen the work load after my heart attack, but thought to hell with that a rat look is basically a **** look. The car deserves more.

    So off to strip the wings , hood and roof.

    I started with this,

    And after a bit of judicial sanding and the right discs, I got to this on the wings to reveal absolutely solid original metal that needs no welding at all.

    And the front hood.


    I put a coat of convertox just to keep the rust at bay until the metal is finished to a level for epoxy primer.


    I have cleaned out the gutter rails which normally are the first to rot on a roof. But they are in great shape.





  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    I moved onto the back wing as it was too wet to bring the car outside to work on the roof.

    Its a common place for rust issues on a type 3 , hopefully its confined to the wing.


    Bottom half of the wing is well shot with rust and bad corrosion.

    Plenty of sand lodged behind the wing.


    But thankfully no serious rust damage.

    And a quick measure and mock up of a replacement repair piece.


    Just need to mark the arch contour, and prepare that, and the jobs a good un.

    Then onto the wing on the opposite side to make a similar panel.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Getting back to working on the variant, i decided to tackle the front clip and inner panel. Both of which had some damage from a front bump, and then the rust in the damaged ares.





  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    More of the rust issues in the spare wheel well. The two side panels are no longer available so I will have to make them and just made a start on them.




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭emo72


    It's just like to say this is one of the best threads I've ever enjoyed on here. My dad had this car when we were kids, wish I had it now. Kadman you can't be taking a few months off from this, we need more frequent updates!



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Ah fek off.......a heart attack sort of feks up yer timeline.. Thanks for your enthusiasm😀


    But never fear, its back on track now. The fuel tank supports are available now, so they will be bought for it, and the side panels will be made now.




  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Side panels were tricky enough to copy, so I just split them in half and traced the back half, and then traced the front half.

    Joined them together and traced them out on a sheet of 1mm mild steel. They originally measured .8mm.

    A few minutes later we have the profiled pattern.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭MrCostington


    Sorry to hear that, hope you're OK now. Keep up the great work, but take it easy:)



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭wildwillow


    I also love this thread and look forward to updates. You remind me so much of my father who was able to recreate almost any car part.

    I hope your health has improved and you can continue your work at your leisure. We do love updates but your health comes first.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    I am back full blast at the car repairs now.thanks for all your kind sentiments. Now enough about me, more on the car.


    The fuel tank support on the right hand side took a whack when the bumper did, it probably got crumpled a bit, rust set in, and now needs replacing. I'll post a pic of that later this morning.

    The other side appears fine, but I notice some rust issue there as well, so its best to come out too. As the rear panel of the spare wheel well is also being replaced and is attached to the lower prongs of the fuel tank supports, its best to replace both sides, once the tank is out.


    Pics to follow.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Hey emo72 if you can find any old pics of the car when your dad had it, that would be great. I'd love to see it in its heyday.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,339 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Looking at the brake carrier plate...memories !!!Not to mention the small amount of dust. I remember when it was SOP during a service, with the car on a wheel free lift to spin the wheels with the airline nozzle, and blow the brake ( asbestos) dust out of hubs. No masks, no safety precautions whatsoever. Different times.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    If you look closely at the 2 pics of the right and left hand fuel tank supports you can see the rust damage that needs replacing. Rather than repairing with patches, I think its best to replacing the full panel section considering the front suspension bushes are located here. If you look at the hi lighted area on both left and right you can clearly see the damage.





  • Registered Users Posts: 8,339 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Sorry to hear about your heart problem, Kadman. Glad to hear that you are recovered and back in action again! Very nice to be following your VW Variant restoration, and its coming on very well. 🙂



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Doc said you are an engineer, so in engineers terms" Your pump is 100%, no damage there< but your fuel lines are clogged so we will clear them out for you" Which he did so kadmans resto is over, and the variant is ongoing. Variant was always going to be longer than kadmans resto😀


    Thanks.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Here is a better pic of the side panels that need to be made. The panels from 69 onwards are still available with a different bumper mount, but the earlier one's which I need are no longer made. This pic has the 2 front wings removed, but the front clip, and inner clip still intact.





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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,339 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Overall, the valance looks to be in pretty good nick, and from what's visible of the Driver's side valance, that does not look bad either.



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