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Germany hoping VP will attend the G20 in Indonesia, might crack a deal before winter. VZ becoming increasingly desperate as he knows the US are starting to tire of him.

This is the big risk. I just can't believe that Russia will pack its bags and go home utterly humiliated. Putin is the epitome of the embittered male who feels the world has done him a grave injustice and owes him and those type of guys, if they go down, tend to want to take their perceived enemies with them.

I dont think this will be the case yet unfortunately.

Ukraine are making great strides in taking out ammo dumps and other assets. But Russia is starting to reinforce the Kherson region heavily now in response to the threat, they just sent 2 more battalions recently.

A full on offensive now may cost huge casualties on the Ukranian side and ultimately may not succeed at this time.

What the Ukranian side are doing now is starving them of their ammo and hardware, the longer they keep takking out their supplies at long range the more depleted the Russian side become in the Kherson region, it may end up forcing the Russians to just retreat themselves. However this strategy may take a long time and could be ongoing well into next year maybe.

I read a twitter thread about this recently which was about military objectives vs political objectives. Military objectives would be to keep hitting the Russian positions from distance without advancing much vs the political pressure to show that they are taking ground and winning the war. Of course their is also the issue of Russia holding their illegal referendums to contend with.

My theory is putin doesn’t give a fcuk about his army winning or losing.

He’s playing a longer term energy war with the EU’s biggest economy.

America aren’t exactly helping by selling overpriced LNG that causes prices of everything in Europe to rise.

German people will only take so much hardship before opinions change and Russian gas will be back on the agenda.

Where are the Putin fanboys, now that the writing is on the wall ?

The West obviously committed itself to full support for Ukraine ages ago, but decided to make it look as if every truckload needed cross party approval and could be cancelled at any time. This made Putin feel confident enough to continue on a path that seems now to have suited the West's approach. Any withdrawal of Western aid is now fantasy land stuff. Putin has been humiliated already by the Crimean situation, but it will get far worse for him. I hope it's true, that Putin has indeed been warned by the US that any use of non-conventional weapons in Ukraine will receive a military response via the destruction, by conventional means, of many Russian military assets.

Germany starting up nuclear plants again, reopening coal plants, most of Europe getting gas from elsewhere, I guarantee you Russia will crack long before Europe will.

The gas they’re getting from elsewhere is overpriced American LNG.

This will keep inflation high.

Gives military officers and occupation officials something to do rather than panic.

Its short term. A liberated Ukraine can become Europes gas supplier. Algeria is already being prepped to take on the southern EU states. Azerbijan and all the 'stans come into play as new energy partners. Nuclear is back in play which takes pressure off gas supply for electricity production, freeing it up for industry. Solar and Wind will be accelerated. Its all downhill for Russia. Anything we want from them we'll take on our own terms going forward. Decades of political interference, espionage and online trolling undone by an idiotic mistake.

Remember back in the early days of the Syrian war ,the theory of America wanted to build a oil and gas pipeline from Iran ,into Syria,Iraq and turkey before connecting to western Europe and removing the Russia from the equation all together,

It was always a conspiracy theory Posted by putinbots on here ,

But looking back it almost makes sense as to why Putin got involved in syria and bombed it back to the stone age

Hopefully.

We need a source of NG we can depend on for sure.

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Ok, expensive relative to NG.

That better?