Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Right, are you willing to inject any of them into yourself as a cure for covid? Also, hydrogen peroxide is also commonly known as bleach.

this is so exciting!! what has he been charged with?

People have told me - for real - that you really have to dilute the bleach before ingesting it.

Guess it was actually Really Good Advice, widely misunderstood, like so many things he said. Poor guy, so many witch hunts. Many, many witch hunts. More, bigger witch hunts than anybody else. Tremendous witch hunts.

what did he say?

What is your basis for assuming that it is some sort of conspiracy?

We know we had illegally taken documents, we know he stalled on giving these back, we know we gave some if not all these documents back.

The likely reason for the raid is they knew there were documents not returned and they were forced, since Trump lied to them, to get them back.

His lawyers have not expressed anything to signal anything different. Trump has not denied the idea it was about classified documents.

But it suits Trump to say nothing as it allows his supporters to simply make up anything.

What we do know, 100%, is that the FBI lead by a Trump appointee and with a history of trying to stay out of politics, obtained a search warrant from a Trump appointed Judge.

Trump has no launched any legal proceedings against the warrant, the DBI or the Judge. His lawyers have not claimed the search was illegal.

As usual with anything to do with Trump, its the hypocrisy. Lock HC up, Biden must be involved with something Brandon definitely did. Everyone is guilty upon the slightest suspicion except for Trump who is always innocent and should be believed no matter what.

What makes you think that the serial liar is now the one telling the truth?

The DOJ are Apolitical. Why is it so hard getting this concept into people's heads

As of now, we know that Trump himself saw this offence as serious enough to sign into law an increase in jail time from the previous 1 year to 5 years. So one needs to ask why Trump felt in 2018 that this was serious but now others want to argue that it really isn't. Of as now it's impossible to say what the outcome for Trump will be. To see an unprecedented raid on such a high-profile individual surely points to this being pretty major. Think of all the stuff the elite people get away with, yet the FBI stepped in here. That to me signals that Trump stepped over a line and this is serious. I am almost certain that he was given every opportunity to deal with this without this going this way and this was very much the last resort.

There is only a political risk because Trump supporters, including the GOP, want to politicise it. This is simply the FBI doing what would be expected of any other citizen. To argue that it could have blowback is to argue that certain people are above the law and should be treated differently simply for being who they are. I would argue that that very much makes Trump a member of the Elite. Which I thought was the very thing Trump supporters were fighting against!

Following up on the previously mentioned reports that an informant was one of the reasons the search warrant was executed:

Rolling Stone reports that, as of now, there is a lot of finger pointing among the inner circle, to denounce possible informants. Motivated, of course, by personal gain and mutual dislikes, not at all because of any genuine attempt to uncover a snitch.

Like a mini civil war in the inner circle.

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