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Where is the cost of living crisis exactly?

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What keeps boards going is that topics of discussion are put forward, regardless of accuracy of op, or whether the op hangs around or not. In fact I'd even go as far as saying its usually the inaccuracies that keep a discussion more interesting and open.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,929 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    OK, so you are arguing that on average a FTB is better off financially than an existing homeowner.


    There is simply no data at all that exists on this earth that backs you up on that one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,819 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Well again you are being too myopic and limited in your conclusions.

    When the crash happens and like for like property was being bought for 60-70% than it's previous sale it was a golden time for FTBs.

    Selling your house is not free and it can also be glacial with not a 100% chance the sale will go through.

    If I am selling a property and I have 2 prospective buyers, one with mortgage approval and the other with mortgage approval but based on the sale of a current house going through, Who do you think I should accept the bid from?

    Estate agents will always push the "cash buyers".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭Andrewf20


    Why? It appears to be a sellers market out there now with high demand for houses. Most people with families are happy to have a home (not sell) but the option to sell is there if say they want to downsize or move down the country. Its also peace of mind to have somewhere to live after retirement.

    What do you propose as a better alternative?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,819 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Yes, but in the scenario they are both seller and buyer.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭Andrewf20


    Why is this a problem?

    What do you propose as an alternative?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,819 ✭✭✭✭Boggles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭Andrewf20


    I have but I'm still not clear what the alternative is or why the ability to sell and buy other properties is an issue?

    If there were better options people would choose them instead but they don't for the most part. Therefore they strive to buy a place of their own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,926 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    You are waffling. You can no longer leverage you house. It virtually impossible to borrow except for improvement to you your house. The 2019 conveyancing law changes make it virtually impossible to leverage a PPR as it's a long process to repossess it and even at that the option of an PIA means the security is worthless.

    https://www.fieldfisher.com/en-ie/locations/ireland/ireland-blog/safeguarding-principal-private-esidences

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭maninasia


    I have been living overseas for a while and I feel day to day spending in places like coffeeshops is pretty low in Ireland. People really don't dine out much and very few places are busy. Some pubs busy on weekends but many have closed. For a country with a large number of jobs and immigrants its quite subdued and very different from the celtic tiger days. Luxury cars are few and far between.

    Checking figures for retail backs up my hunches.

    Hotels and b&bs doing well as people seem to splurge on that, and there are lots of tourists , but people seem to be cutting back on other discretionary spending.


    There are certain sectors doing extremely well like dairy farmers and IT folks and property developers and agents, but its patchy enough.


    There is no recession here but it is very far from booming either. The immigrants that come here are also not spending a whole lot either. Many seem to be in cost saving mode and watch that accelerate goong into Winter.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭maninasia


    Also consider emigrating or switching careers if possible for a more lucrative income.

    Its hard to reduce costs much in Ireland I think a lot of the high costs are quite fixed.

    However getting rid of a car could go a long way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    Must say id disagree on this. Spent alot of time in Dublin over the past fortnight and it was packed. One particular Brazilian restaurant seemed full all the time (and it's not cheap), pubs are full, getting a taxi is hard etc. Couldn't believe how busy it was. People everywhere!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,304 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Definitely feeling the pinch here. I went part time over the summer due to caring responsibilities and had one unexpected big bill which has eaten into savings. Usually have money left aside at end of month to throw into savings ( additional to standing orders that go out at start of month) but that hasn’t happened in months. Going back full time next week 😕 more out of necessity than want. We are already quite frugal so can’t really tighten things up much at all.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Subzero3


    Ops got no kids and works from home lol.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭maninasia


    The cite centre is packed for sure, a lot of tourists and Spanish students at this time of year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,590 ✭✭✭theteal


    My UK energy bill is headed for £3k and predictions are the price cap is rising to £4k in January. We'll be alright (might have to put holiday plans on hold) but I'd have genuine concerns for low income houses and pensioners. There will have to some significant government intervention (when there eventually is one) before there is civil unrest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,094 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Someone mentioned big demand for holidays so people must be doing well.

    Lot of pent-up demand for holidays due to Covid and vouchers to use up etc etc. Also people who booked months ago don't want to lose deposits.

    Bookings for next year will give us a good picture of the financial health of the nation.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,948 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    I would dispute this.

    Firslt, despite what some say - you dont have the mad, mad disparity of wealth in Ireland that you have elsewhere. There are heaps of super rich in London and there are heaps of sports cars in London. But there are lots and lots of poor areas in the UK, way moreso than here. In fact, a trip across the border makes that evident pretty quickly.

    Second, we just dont have the roads for - or the culture of - luxury cars.

    I was in Sweden not so long ago, undeniably in the category of 'wealthy' country, and didnt see that many luxury cars there either.

    Where you really see the splurge is in property, in home renovations and so on.

    Having said that, inflation here to your point is imported and not demand led locally - and for sure lots of people, e.g. anyone in Public Service - are being hit very very hard by it this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    They are talking about it on radio again. They will be balloting members and possible strike if no "substantial " pay rise.

    They truly are shameless



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,142 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Swedes buy sensible cars, Irish buy SUVs even when they don't really need an SUV because they're fashionable, to put one up on the neighbours, but kitted out poverty-spec - no extras.

    Fur coat, no knickers, like most things here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,122 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Sweden is full of high spec saloons and estates - plenty expensive. Wouldn't want a low to the ground, summer tyred sportscar when you can have a 350bhp estate that can actually be used in winter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭boardlady


    I agree with you on the growing up in the 70s and 80s - where the net curtains were frozen onto the inside of the window in the mornings! And that makes me sound like we were destitute, but we were not. That was just a lot of housing during those times. I grew up in Dublin, private school, but we were always minding money and the house was often baltic. I could probably afford to heat my home like a sauna, but why would I be so wasteful? We heat to 20 degrees then let it cool and the bedrooms are better cool at night. Just as well i'm used to that, because I won't be able to afford that kind of heating this winter! I am definitely feeling the pinch with fuel and groceries but the electric bills are the ones giving me the horrors. I feel as though i'm already baulking at paying them and surely they will only be worse come winter .. I have the greatest respect for those managing on less than my own humble funds. I think the OP must be trolling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    Ah, the good old days.

    I remember in the winter time, seeing my own breath in the bedroom, it was so cold.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,094 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    How dare people try to protect their standard of living - sure aren't they lucky to be getting paid at all? 🙄

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,792 ✭✭✭brickster69


    It was bad if you had an outdoor toilet and wiped your arse with newspaper stuck on a nail. People nowaday's would not last a week.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    And if we don't get our way we put the whole system on stop.

    Threats Every single year . Shameless



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,094 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Yep those 1% pay deals are pretty shameless, alright.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    To be honest I'd rarely have my heating turned up above 20. I find I sleep much better in a cooler bedroom. Also we have a separate kitchen and sitting room so would just like the fire and the heating would be off in the rest of the house. I have to say our electricity bills ain't too bad at the moment and I wouldnt have cut back on usage at all.


    Definitely notice the increase in groceries but have just started to meal plan better and this is working. But as you say its harder when your funds are less to manage. Op is definitely trolling. I can't believe a teacher would have such a warped view of society seeing as they would be in contact with kids of all backgrounds every day!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭maninasia


    I didn't say I moved back from Europe (I came back from a more prosperous busier place), I get your point though I think that the spending patterns of locals now are a bit depressed compared to before. So many own brands. People really dont seem to eat out much due to the cost. All kinds of restaurants, coffeeshops, fast food, cinemas they just dont seem busy at all to me. Not many gyms (probably covid killed loads). Quiet usually. Maybe everybody is on holidays overseas or in Ballybunion. Yep I see a lot of money goes on property renovations and property in general.

    Let us see what happens after the Summer season.



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  • Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You were offered 7% over the two years which was rejected, on top of the proposed income tax reduction. It's bare faced greed, nothing else. As soon as the surplus is announced, out comes the teachers and their sticky paws. And to think there is economic and business teachers in that cohort who should know better than chase inflation. It's a joke of a profession now.

    WFH lessens the impact of strikes now. It's about time govt employees were faced down once and for all. Let them strike.



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