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WWE Raw Superthread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Gargano and Ciampa with Miz against reteamed Hurt Business



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,884 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    And Judgement Day with Brad Wyatt/Friend been the 3rd 'male' member



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Ezekiel a goner, Elias returning?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Rhea sure likes getting Dom hurt



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    It seems Dexter Lumis was creating the backstage and audience drama on Raw, why, looking for Indi or maybe Theory?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    That was really fun story telling. Hinted at during the KO and Asoka/Bliss segments subtly, and then appearing ringside at the end. Way beyond what WWE usually do in terms of subtly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Another really strong Raw. Again the 3 hours is a killer but some excellent stuff. Good opener with Seth and Montez. Thought the Lashley/Ciampa match was outstanding really did a great job of making both of them looks amazing. The main event was fun too.

    Nice that the women's tag team championships back even if some of those teams are a bit ropey. I absolutely loved the way the built to Lumis' appearance, not even making it fully clear, it was a subtly that you definitely wouldn't be used to but felt like in retrospect he had a presence throughout the whole show. Wonder if they're building to the return of the Way.

    Regardless, hope Raw can keep this up cause so far I've enjoyed the last two weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Just remembering Ronda commenting one week on Natalya showing off the cleavage. She would definitely have something to say about Nikkita.

    So Lumis as another one brought back.

    When will Dom turn?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭Officer999


    HHH not a fan of the Ezekiel gimmick then



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The camera cuts are still horrendous. I actually had to look away from the TV during the womens brawl at the start of the show because it was so jarring. The worry though is that if Dunn is shown the door at some stage, I presume whoever the producer/director (whatever the title is) of NXT will take over and even during the black and gold the days the camera cuts were excessive. So even if Dunn goes, it could still be the exact same.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,884 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    With some of the relased talent coming back so quck I do wonder was it known months ago Vince was leaving ?



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    I reckon they'll slow roll the Dom turn and have him "accidentally" cost Edge against Priest in a few weeks. Then do a full turn at Clash or something like that. Expecting Edge and Rey VS Priest and Finn there now seeing as they're continuing with the story.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I have a feeling it's more that he's a big fan of Owens, and wanted to give Owens a definitive exit from the feud, and one that made him look like a killer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I can't remember but did Dexter debut before on the main shows or just was on NXT?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    I'd take a 10 foot fall through tables before I'd take any move on the apron.



  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Serenity Future Self-expression


    Darby Allin's 'Coffin Drop' onto the apron against Cody Rhodes is one of the nastiest bumps I've seen.

    He couldn't spread his weight by putting his arms out nor could he decelerate with his foot/feet, just pure spine vs. apron.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    He was involved with Indi on NXT when he was released. So unless he just made a brief appearance or MJF style cameo then he was only on NXT.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Yes I only remember him from NXT, I am curious what angle storyline is HHH going with for him on Raw, it is intriguing



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    In case no one saw him on Raw TV



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    An invasion of released superstars?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I’m presuming he’ll be stalking AJ, like a super fan, who takes it too far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    I like Lumis. Good comedy character.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,884 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Lets hope its wont have elements of that Trish/Mickie James super fan storyline lol



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC




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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Nah... That would be way too progressive for WWE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Lashley defending against AJ Styles, should be show stealing main event, new fresh match



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,884 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Meh not a fan of that new intro video, don't find the tune great either (love my nu metal themes of old)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Why was the US Title match not the main event?

    I think Ezekiel's dad might want to get a paternity test done. His kids look nothing like him. 😀

    So are there Drew McIntyre swords available on wweshop?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Another pretty good Raw.

    Glad, they didn't have some sort of return this week. It would have gotten old and they need to show they can keep the show good without them.

    Promos were excellent this week, the Drew/KO one being the stand out. This week felt like they were finding the balance between HHH and Vince. Theory got more prominence and the Ezekiel story got more play for example. Then again Ciampa being presented like a beast and the midcard titles feeling important felt like more momentum in the right direction.

    While I definitely don't think Theory needed to main event, I do think it was nice to mix up the last match now and again, especially as he needs to feel like a bigger deal since he's holding the MITB. Again really enjoying the Lumis appearance, more blatant this week but liked the background teases and cutting to an ad so abruptly was a good move. It just feels like the matches have more weight behind them and the quality is there to back that up, certainly less complaints.

    Sidenote - That's not a new intro, right? New footage but same theme, it's just rarely played.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    That KO/McIntyre segment was really good. The Ezekiel stuff is funny but not sure where they go from here with it now ..



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I’m presuming the feeling is the end of the second hour is when the most watchers are there, so that’s where the “main event” has been the last two weeks. That, and since Theory is Mr MITB, giving him a main event win isn’t a bad idea. If the idea is he’s meant to be a credible challenger for Roman, Drew and co, they’d want to give him more than one TV win every four months….



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    I'm sure there's a lot more to it but I do wonder if Drew's 'kip up' is partly a cause of his current back issues. He's a huge guy and that's a lot of weight to be powering off the mat and directly down onto the legs and back.

    Also there was another guy with well documented back issues who used it in the past, a heartbreaker some might say..



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    McIntyre accent is nearly as bad as Becky's it really takes me out of the moment.

    He is great in the ring but I think he would he a proper mouth piece manager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    The child Elias, oh my God...




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    That is peak professional wrestling 😂



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Vince is was a fcuking genius when it comes to that kind of entertainment

    Hunter wouldn't try that Elias-Ezekiel just wouldn't do that kind of entertainment with the talent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I like how he's in full wrestling gear in the bed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,884 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    The 'bother' in blue reminds me of David Earl in his Kev character (Derek by Ricky Gervais)




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    The intensity and passion from both Drew and KO, pure epic in those promos

    Ziggler to be fair always delivers in ring, wonder will he have another go at Theory at CATC

    I was sure Riddle would trip in his flip flops coming to the ring

    Has Rhea forgot her title match opportunity against Bianca to focus on leading "stable Judgement" against Mysterios, beating the guys



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Trish back tonight, to announce Evolution 2 PPV or be fed to Bayley or Rhea?

    Edge vs. Priest also

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Oooh Evolution 2 wasn't even a possiblity I thought about.

    That first one was a banger, would have excellent potential and be a great indicator too that Triple H is giving women more spotlight than Vince.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Chad Gable is great, needs a single push



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    That was a nice return to keep hidden from the dirtsheets 😁

    Another solid Raw all around in fairness.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Great Raw. A part of me is almost annoyed that with the Summer coming to an end I'll have to get back to making another 2 plus hours for wrestling cause it's worth watching again🤣

    Tag title tournament semi was a good match and thought they used Trish well in the opener and love how seamlessly it went from the promo to the match. Asuka and Iyo is match that is going to slap when it finally happens.

    Dolph and Finn match was excellent too although Finn's new theme is ass. Really liking Kevin Owens going back to his sort of NXT persona. Definitely in keeping with the Triple H playbook so far. Lumis dragging the Miz away was awesome, so well done and enjoying the hell out of how he's being presented.

    The Gargano return was a nice surprise, they were so casual about it but I think on the main roster he has the potential to be one of their key babyfaces, having him acknowledge all his NXT accomplishments and keep the continuity with Theory was a nice touch too, him coming out so close to Lumis is suspect though🤔

    Main event was also great and Beth getting involved was expected but fun. Wonder if we'll get Judgement Day vs Edge, Beth and Rey at Cardiff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,884 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Poster in Cardiff has Dom, Rey and Edge vs Judgement Day



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Lumis kidnapping Miz and getting cheered for it, only in wrestling 🤣🤣🤣

    Who was the other fella that attacked Styles they made sure to get a shot of his face too?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    I don't think it was anyone or maybe it will be revealed that Lumis has developed a followers. I assumed they only made sure to get the face shot so they could show it wasn't Lumis.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Yeah, I presume it was to explain why security weren’t able to catch Lumis this time. They were too busy already.


    Is it a coincidence that Lumis kindnaps Gargano’s partner’s partner right before his return? 😂

    loved the Gargano return. Raw has been so much better in recent weeks.



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