Ukraine (Mod Note & Threadbanned Users in OP)

Quess what, fighting in an urban area means there will be civilian/non military infrastructure all around you, it's a simple reality.

Ukraine has a choice either withdraw and don't fight, or stay and fight.

The former gives up any advantage and plays into Russian hands, the later means that inevitably some buildings will be hit/civilian casualties. But it appears that the Ukrainian army tries to evacuate the civilian population before any fighting. That's key difference.

OTOH Russia targets at random and doesn't appear to be taking any interest in reducing the risk of civilians becoming casualties.

I was listening to a podcast on this, the person had just returned from the Ukraine and he made the point that yes he saw Ukrainian troops dug in near a hospital but the hospital had be emptied and was unoccupied. So it was a hospital in name only.

How does Russian propaganda explain this away?

The president of the Ukrainian nuclear agency said on Friday that Russian forces are using the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in southern Ukraine as a base for storing and launching weapons.

How about the Russian orcs **** off out of Ukraine and back to their own backward mafia run country, that would also mean no children and women need to die eh?

It's a pity nobody has ever been able to find these people that the Ukrainian army was allegedly killing for 8 years: an average of 30 civilians killed each year for the last 6 by all sides (incl the renowned for respecting human rights Russians & their competent, professional local proxies) & 50% of whom killed by landmines

You evaded my question. Yes, they were fighting the Wehrmacht in the open fields, but they were also fighting them in the cities, as in the examples I gave. I repeat, why was the Red Army's fight against the Germans in the houses, streets and factories of Stalingrad a heroic act, while the Ukrainian army's fight against the Russians in Mariupol and other cities is a crime? ''Wehrmacht was destroying cities to the ground before leaving'' is not an answer. In fact, Stalin resisted evacuating Stalingrad. He said ''The soldiers will fight better for a living city than a dead one''.

Well, the biggest war crime by far is using Europe's biggest nuclear power plant as a base.

correct..

however moving equipment into a recently captured area is not setting up a military base...

Also, as mentioned previously, the Ukranian's do their very best to evacuate civilians before they move in, and after they do...

It's a well know tactic of the Russian's to keep civilians in the area as a buffer to slow down any advance

Dont hold your breath on the Amnesty report into this...

I'm not sure about the "freedom fighters" part. The Chechens were notorious for acts of terrorism and seizing large numbers of innocent hostages and killing them - the hospital siege in the mid 90s and then the Moscow theatre and the school in Beslan.

Your right it’s not good to think the sky is falling down but it’s also not good to be detached from reality the way the likes of Sabina Higgins and many people in this country so obviously are. Yes the frontline is thousands of miles from us but Russia despises our way of life just as much as the Ukranian way of life.