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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,426 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    There are not many premium or luxury car brands in Ireland at present.

    Look at BMW and Audi. They don’t even offer an Uber lift home. Drop car and make your own way home.

    Bmw batteries failing, chargers failing. One guy left his i4 in the dealers and it sat in the car park for 2 months. With staff sitting on it smoking.

    People fall for the advertising, fantastic machines because they read it on a bill board, when in fact they are just as good as any other brand.

    The Asian brands are actually better put together than the Germans now, who are using Asia to build some cars too 🤣🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,418 ✭✭✭markpb


    Can attest to this. I waited almost six weeks for a door actuator and over two months for a FWD. The snails they’re using to transport stuff into Ireland are vastly overworked!



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,426 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Kia the same. 5 weeks waiting on the rear glass for the rear doors to come in for the eNiro.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,482 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    ...and all I'll say is good luck if you need a Model 3 or Y front windscreen replacement

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,426 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭wassie


    Was talking to a tech a while back and he said the quality issues between the MIC cars vs and the pre-2021 Fremont cars are chalk and cheese just going by the raw numbers of service appointments. If you are buying today you can be reasonably assured your MIC M3 has been well assembled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭creedp


    Be great for the public with reduced fares..... likely!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭creedp


    What spare parts would a new EV need? Isn't that one of the selling points of EVs.. less to go wrong



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭creedp


    In fairness all manufacturers do it to a certain extent and claimed economy is hopelessly optimistic. Very few cars achieve 80% of claimed economy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 431 ✭✭Dubwat


    As a taxi vehicle, drunk passenger could climb on bonnet and damage it. Or break the infotainment unit. Or smash windows. Or soil seats so much they need replacing. Passenger could damage one of the USB ports. All would need OEM parts, apart the windows maybe?

    In my last diesel taxi, the back door was opened and closed so much, the cable connecting the door handle and release mechanism snapped. Twice.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,335 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    True but it's still a greater than 0% chance of failure, and when the car is your livelihood then minimal downtime is important

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭cannco253


    Is this the first time charging costs have been displayed on a board in the UK or Ireland? I don’t think the Shell ev hub in London displays prices like this.

    I wonder if this means they expect the price to change more frequently than in the past. Nice set up for a supermarket.




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,482 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Progressive move, some serious power there, probably better charging options than most towns in Ireland and all in a single supermarket car park!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,335 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I'm pretty sure that's more rapid chargers than in all of Cork city and is pretty close to Dublin


    Love the idea of the sign, helps to advertise the chargers, rather than shoving them in the back beside the bins which seems standard practice in most places


    There's regulations for petrol stations requiring them to have the lit sign with prices and other requirements. Those should be extended to rapid chargers

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,426 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Not really as the owner needs to build a slush fund to replace the battery.

    Taxi owner this morning got a €15k bill from Nissan to change the HV Battery. 2018 40 kWh Leaf but has 165,000 km on the clock so no warranty.

    Any advice anyone?

    Indy to check individual cells?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,335 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Definitely speak to an Indy, pretty sure I've seen reconditioned 40kWh packs going for nearly half that. And the issue might be something simple like a bad cell or connection


    Might be worth asking Nissan for a reconditioned pack too, they were saying a few years back that they were going to start making them available to customers

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,482 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Don't know of any Indy in Ireland capable of checking the cells, I've seen the YT guys on other cars but never heard of a Leaf battery failure (ignoring the lizards). YT lads quote around €15k for the proper equipment to put in place for safety and cell checking (not my figures) so probably no appetite yet for that. The €15k does not sound a million miles off in terms of a brand new battery and although the taxi owner will have to come up with the cash it will be an allowable expense. The current battery is also worth money in the used market but other's can chip in on the value.

    There may be places in the UK that can help but I've only seen full replacement and not repairs (on a Leaf).

    If it was a Tesla then I'd say water related failure, it being a Leaf I'd think heat related failure...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭Thumper Long


    Just came across this, this morning the BYD Seal not a great review given it’s static but the car looks well looks to be finished to a very high standard https://youtu.be/QTWbjJPlwt8



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,534 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    This

    you can pay a 6 figure sum now for a bmw or an Audi and make your own way home from service centre, at least Mercedes’ will get you home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,467 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I saw that post and my first thing to do would be to ignore the nissan dealer completely as they are clueless.

    I would get leafspy on the battery and check cell parameters etc but the very very first thing would be to charge the 12v battery externally to the car. Leafs always have issues like that and they are almost always caused by the 12v



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭PaulJoseph22


    Not my experience with BMW, always a loaner car offered to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭kanuseeme


    It seems convenient for Nissan that it gives up the ghost 4466 km after its 100000-mile warranty.

    Battery warranty

    Investing in a New Nissan LEAF means investing in both the very latest in all-electric vehicle technology and in peace of mind. Each new model that is purchased is backed by an 8-year/100,000-mile New Nissan LEAF Battery Capacity Loss Warranty, which ensures any concerns over the maintenance and performance of the Lithium-Ion battery in your vehicle are covered.

    https://www.windsor.ie/nissan/new-leaf/maintenance/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭creedp


    Surely that's an outlier. 165k Km should be nothing for an EV battery. EVs key selling points are longevity and low maintenance, with the exception of early Teslas which seem to be particularly problematic. Increasingly we're hearing of 1m km EVs so with the fantastic tax incentives and low running costs, EV taxis will be hugely profitable unless fares are reduced. NB to get in early and make a killing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,614 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Any time I needed a loaner it was my insurance sorted it out not the garage, unless its scheduled warranty work and then I just organise my life to not need one to avoid the stress and ballache of insurance etc. I dont get the obsession with like fo like loaners really some people have, if I need one I want a 0.9litre polo please....Defo dont want a better car as comparison is the thief of joy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,114 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Easier said than done, @Fitz II to arrange your life not to need one. You have to drop the car in to the dealers. Then what? Get a taxi or lift / public transport home or to work and same again when you come pick up the car? That's hassle (public transport or lift) or costs money (taxi). And what do you do in the meantime if you don't have a spare car that you could use?

    I'd rather a one minute robust conversation with the dealer demanding a loaner car (like yourself I couldn't really care what it was as long as the fuel light wasn't on and I had to fuel it at one of those petrol stations I used to frequent a long time ago 😂) and a one minute phone call to my insurer to change over the reg. Both cost nothing. I used to have insurance that stipulated that I didn't have to do anything about insurance and I could drive any garage provided loaner car as long as it wasn't for more than 9 working days in a row.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,378 ✭✭✭KCross


    I used to have insurance that stipulated that I didn't have to do anything about insurance and I could drive any garage provided loaner car as long as it wasn't for more than 9 working days in a row.

    Its called PC12A. I've used it a few times recently. The dealer specifically asked if I had this in my policy and once I had there was nothing else required. Automatically covered and no phone calls or specifying start/end times etc. Just hop in and drive.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,534 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    used to be my experience too, but not recently, Covid was used as an excuse and never reverted back.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,426 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Hopefully but it was a 2018 car. Hopefully he can get it sorted through an Indy.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,426 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    You don’t need to sort out insurance. Most fully comp policies mean you just hop in and drive. My own included, they don’t want any details unless I will have it for longer than 10 days.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,426 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    That poster is in the UK so dealing with BMW UK.

    BMW Ireland do not give loaners as you’ve rightly pointed out.



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