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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    So I did a quick check of charger usage on the drive home from Drogheda

    Ionity City North, both chargers in use. ID.3 and Taycan so at least they were using the kilowatts

    Applegreen Lusk, there was an e-C4 at the ESB charger


    Just a random Saturday morning and chargers were all busy along the M1


    There's also Maxol Donabate and the airport, but I've a feeling they were probably busy as well


    Really could do with some more chargers on that route 😬

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Bit more details here


    So apparently it was the gigantic f**k up at Cariad that was the final nail in Deiss's coffin

    Not really sure what VW is expecting to happen with Cariad, seems designed to fail. I took a look at their hiring pages and they're looking for some very specialised knowledge, generally the kind of stuff you'll struggle to just hire people in without paying buckets of money


    IMO they might have more success trying to hire on a bunch of mid level engineers and maybe contracting in a few specialists to train them up and grow the knowledge in house


    Anyway, I'm not going to try playing armchair CEO too much, when I've run a few software companies into the ground I might know more 😁

    On the plus side Oliver Blume from Porsche is going to become CEO. Given Porsche are very committed to electrification then hopefully this means good things for VW group


    Better that than some photocopied VW manager who thinks the future of car propulsion is diesel

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    In a scheme that was expected to deliver up to 200 public chargers per year, so far 33 have been delivered in the year or so the scheme has been active.

    it’s fairly clear that the majority councils want nothing to do with EV charging.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,432 ✭✭✭markpb


    It’s amazing that they didn’t think this would happen. Giving part of the capital cost of a project to a council means that they have to fund the rest of it, they have to find a staff member to manage the tender for the installation of it and then look after it after that and running operational tenders every few years. It’s a lot of work for something that they don’t really care about.

    If it’s important, either do it centrally or force councils to do it. This weird half-way house approach doesn’t work with local authorities in Ireland. See: housing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    They are approved not delivered. We have to wait for those 33.Then if you remember Co. Louth installed a pilot AC for 30+k. Maybe there is some interested party hence the big number.

    The LGMA document clearly says there is no business case for LAs to install chargers. Grants mean something voluntary. You don't have to do it Then Dublin LAs say they rather install rapids which do not qualify for this grant. Then they say there is no space for rapids, and where there is space there is no power. It is good they have parking enforcement divisions cause that is making money. Mark is right it is govs fault for not driving the change, and leaving it to the uninitiated local councils who don't see value in getting more work on their plate.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I'd almost be okay with LAs not bothering with installing chargers if they'd make it easier for people without driveways to install home chargers. There's solutions out there which don't result in any obstruction on the pavement but LAs just don't want to know

    Instead we get this situation where a significant number of homeowners can't have an home charger, and don't have access to good public charging

    LAs are doing their usual trick when asked to do soemthing for residents where they drag their feet like a bunch of kids going to school 🙄

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Well I'm glad Bord Gais is doing so well out of the current energy crisis 😑

    I get that business is business, but is a 74% rise in profits really justifiable. I mean that surely means that they're increasing prices at around 2x their cost increases, right?

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    No just x1.74

    x2 is for the winter



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,384 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    It works out at around €78 per customer profit for the first six months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Interesting fact, today I've seen at least 5 EV taxis, all around Dublin airport. 3 ID.4s, and Enyaq and a ZS EV

    Great to see taxis taking the initiative and going electric. I think a lot of people see them and start to seriously consider making the move themselves

    It's also interesting that the ID.4 seems very popular with taxi drivers. I probably tend to notice them more since I drive one myself, but between them and the MGs they seem to cover most of the EV taxis at the moment

    I've seen a few Model 3 taxis, and I've yet to see any Kia/Hyundai's with taxi plates

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,220 ✭✭✭shanec1928




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Only x2 for winter? You must be feeling optimistic 😁

    I was almost thinking they were building up the cash pile for winter in case they'd need to pay extra for gas supplies (which seems likely)

    But if that was the case then it wouldn't be profit, it'd be operating costs

    Like I said, I know this is how companies work, they make money for shareholders. But it'd be nice if they weren't ringing the bells about how great this all is

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,636 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Any taxi driver not in an EV by now is certifiably insane. The subsidies are off the scales, basically they get the EV taxi for near zero total cost of ownership over several years. Even if you're addicted to the stink of diesel and your hobby is to give people cancer, you'd still be very tempted to go EV as a taxi man for the enormous financial savings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,576 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Down in my part of the world they are mainly Niros and a few Enyas



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Fair number of E-Niros as well around me too, they all just seemed to be in hiding today.

    Might have spotted one blocking a petrol pump (while a Prius was blocking the charger) but didn't get a good enough look to see if it was a PHEV or EV

    PS, the Prius moved after a minute, in his defence there was literally nowhere else to park

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 429 ✭✭Dubwat


    The Kia EV6 had privacy glass in the rear windows so would fail the taxi test on the face of it. My understanding is that Kia weren't too keen on sourcing the replacement glass. Clear glass might be available now via a Dublin showroom called O'Sullivans (?)

    Hyundai were not offering a taxi warranty (unlike their UK counterparts) so that would put some off, I guess. That warranty text could be read two ways but I believe that the sales staff were verbally saying there is/was no taxi warranty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I think the taxi subsidy was closed for a while this year, from March or April. It got oversubscribed and ran out of cash, but should be reopening for the second half of the year


    Who'd have thought that EVs would have been so popular as taxis? 😏

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭silver_sky


    The few I've talked to not in EVs are either waiting on cars or waiting on the right one for them. Latest chap was hoping for the stellantis vans to be made available with the bigger battery. Not come across one yet that wasn't considering an EV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 429 ✭✭Dubwat


    It's supply and demand. In the first grant year, grants were available until Oct. This year, the grant offers closed in Feb (or March?) due to huge demand but they can't buy an EV within the 3 month grant window. The NTA has offered to be flexible but the dealers won't commit any delivery dates to paper. So the taxi drivers are caught between a rock and a hard place.

    Also, spare parts are a potential problem. I'm hearing stories of people waiting months for spare parts and not just EVs. A taxi driver can't be off the road for 2 or 3 months while waiting for a spare part to turn up for their new EV. In an auld Prius or Skoda, you could go to the breakers yard and get a spare part within hours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Very interesting info, I had assumed it was bad timing between delivery delays and the taxi subsidy being paused

    I think I've seen one Ioniq 5 taxi around, but not 100% sure

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,636 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    @Dubwat - good points, but they didn't apply a year or two ago. And back then when I asked pretty much any taxi driver, they didn't want to know about EVs and they wanted to stick with what they knew. In many cases diesel for Irish taxi drivers and hybrid for non-national taxi drivers. Of course any EV taxi driver I spoke to was delighted with their choice.


    Of course this wasn't just taxi drivers being behind the curve, the same applied to the general public as well. But of course the perfect fit of an EV for a Dublin taxi driver and the huge subsidy is what should have made them cop on quicker, I would have thought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Never seen one of these before….


    EQE 43 AMG

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 429 ✭✭Dubwat


    I'm an taxi driver who got his MG5 in Oct 2021. I am delighted with my choice but, as mentioned above, worry about spare parts. The MG5 is fairly basic inside and, for me, that's an advantage as there's very little of the customer to break (cf. spare parts). I couldn't imagine buying the €50-60k EV's with super-fancy interiors. Taxi EV's are perfect city cars. My average speed is ~30km/hr and regen breaking helps as well.

    Yeah, even now, there is huge resistance and I don't understand it.

    • Range anxiety seems to be a thing but I'd suggest city taxis drive 150km or less per day and any modern EV will easily cover that. I usually get two days out of my MG5 Long Range.
    • With a few exceptions, we cannot refuse jobs under 30km. The implication is that we don't have to do jobs over 30km? But colleagues ask what about a Dublin - Belfast job? Yet when I ask how many of these jobs they get a year, the answer is usually none but they heard of this other taxi driver... In any event, I'd imagine 2 strangers in a taxi would be happy to take a coffee/toilet/recharge break halfway to Belfast?
    • They seem to think Ireland is alone in the world conducting this 'EV' experiment. They don't notice that Amazon, Hertz, and the US Postal Service have ordered hundreds of thousands of EV's for their business. There are real world examples of EV's doing ~300,000km with functioning batteries but still there's resistance.
    • A lot talk about the Prius/hybrid as a stepping stone but the grant will be long gone when they next need to buy a new taxi.
    • Edit: one I forgot to mention is the accusation that I'm wasting time while charging. I say I charge whilst I'm sleeping. Or having a coffee break if rapid charging. They don't seem to think sitting on a rank is wasting time in this age of taxi apps!

    The NTA has EV grant money for 3 years (€15million/year). This year, year 2, the grant letters were all gone by Feb. Applications are reopening for lapsed grant offers this Monday! But anecdotally you can't get an EV delivered this year for love nor money!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,384 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Seems like Mercedes have a fairly decent suite of EV’s out now….. the EQE is about Model 3 sized, or maybe slightly smaller….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I've had to eat my words today, saw a Kia EV6 taxi. Didn't seem to have privacy glass on the rear window fwiw

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Meanwhile in Enfield at the Tesla only supercharger site…..

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,636 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    LOL n00b, car charging a bit slower than you thought?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Don't you know that BMW drivers are allowed to park anywhere they want? They are after all important people driving around doing important things 😜

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,384 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    What actually happens when a non Tesla plugs in? Does the car keep trying to connect or anything?



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