Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

aloyisious · 24-07-2022 11:26PM

Back to Trump and his allies. Having seen earlier reports on F/B pages quoting Liz Cheney as saying a subpoena could be on the way to Mrs Thomas to appear before the committee, I checked to see if this was likely and the Daily Mail has it that the committee is to discuss whether or not to issue one to Mrs Thomas. No decision has been made about it yet. It seems the matter of charges [of dereliction of duty] being laid against former president Trump are to be discussed as well.

Brian? · 25-07-2022 06:31AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119382622#Comment_119382622

Not exactly true. There are plenty of people today who lionise the confederate leaders as heroes who fought for state rights. Their attitude towards slavery is critical in how we analyse the civil war.

Quin_Dub · 25-07-2022 08:06AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119383317#Comment_119383317

Indeed , lots of apologists try to make the claim that the primary reasons for the Civil war was "States Rights" and not Slavery, ignoring that the only "State Right" at issue was in fact Slavery.

It's the same shield that the homophobes and religious zealots will try to hide behind now - "Oh I just believe in small Government and that all this stuff should be decided at State level".

Nope - You're just a Homophobe, a Misogynist and a Religious zealot.

aloyisious · 29-07-2022 11:35AM

Am I getting ahead of myself in thinking that there may be a small newborn posse within the GOP who want to post Trump out of town, light appearing at the end of the tunnel due to his reported claim that he might stand as a candidate in the next Presidential election, or is it all smoke and mirrors to act as a stalking horse for the governor from Florida?

Is it ok to think DeSantis is a sure thing for the GOP next time around or will he want to put distance between himself and Trump to ensure his name is on the GOP ticket? He may be lucky not to have be a GOP Capitol Hill politician on the 6 Jan, an untainted Governor with state electoral numbers the GOP wants when it comes to the electoral college, trailing after California and Texas.

I'm seeing the committee hearings now essential as a trial before public opinion [which could change said opinion] if the right person steps up to blow away the MAGA image of Trump being essential to the GOP for taking the White House, as Trump stands accused of besmirching the title of President while party leader.

Given how Trump wanted Clinton locked up while they were both candidates, that precedent might make it easier for the AG to make moves against Trump while Trump is gaslighting the odds of standing in the next election.

Quin_Dub · 29-07-2022 12:14PM

Trump will do what he thinks is best for him , he has absolutely zero concern about what might be best for the GOP or anyone else.

If Trump does run in 2024, DeSantis might be best placed to sit this round out.

He's very young in Political terms - he's only 43 so time is absolutely on his side.

Anyone running against Trump in a GOP primary for 2024 will be up against it as at Primary level he absolutely still has an iron grip there.

The GOP are not going to abandon Trump until his base does and so far they seem immune to the torrent of information proving what an utter POS he is.

The ideal scenario for the GOP is that the DOJ or NY AG does the job for them and prosecute him.

That way they keep their hands clean and can claim righteous anger about it to keep his best onside..

aloyisious · 29-07-2022 11:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119403350#Comment_119403350

From what I've seen on TV news etc, the average older GOP voter seems to think Trump is magnificent. Then again, there might be a bit of selective editing/cropping of footage before the polished item is put on screen. They seem to think that what they are admiring is telling the unvarnished truth, even down to his personal shading. As some-one else opined, the TV show The Apprentice has a lot to answer for.

Garland might as well accept that if Trump gets back in, he's toast and has nothing left to lose by making Trump the ultimate loser. He probably wont get knifed in the back by the GOP, more like applauded from the back stage. Ditto for the NY AG, seeing as Trump scuttled out of that town when the heat was on.

aloyisious · 31-07-2022 11:46AM

Some news outlets [national-public and private] are reporting that FoxNews has dumped Trump. This is following on from the New York Post and WSJ running stories about Trump which indicated he may not be hero of the month at those outlets, all of whom are owned by Rupert Murdoch.

Does this indicate a parting of the ways with Newscorp resulting in a loss of publicity outlets on which Trump can push his views and ideas of how important he is for the US or is it Silly Season reporting?

Nody · 31-07-2022 12:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119411217#Comment_119411217

He will simply do the same as he did with twitter, find a very much smaller pond where he can swim around and pretend he's a big important fish to avoid bruising his Jupiter sized ego of the world revolving around him after all. Are there not two more Right of Fox TV channels he can go to instead?

ohnonotgmail · 31-07-2022 01:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119411322#Comment_119411322

Well there is always OAN News but it seems they are in financial trouble as the cable networks have started to drop the channel.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/business/oan-troubles.amp.html

31-07-2022 01:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119411500#Comment_119411500

This channel should retreat to an outpost on YouTube so.

martingriff · 31-07-2022 01:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119382622#Comment_119382622

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119382025#Comment_119382025

There is a great series on YouTube also reactions to it called Checkmate Lincolnites in relation to this and others in relation to civil war. Sorry mods for going off topic

aloyisious · 31-07-2022 07:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119411322#Comment_119411322

I don't know if there are other platforms who will be prepared to take over from FoxNews as his anchor [if it has taken a decision to distance itself from Trump] and are willing to be taken over by him as exampled in the way he took over the GOP. I'll believe Murdoch has decided to dump Trump when an opinion-piece with his name in a major NewsCorp publication says he holds Trump liable for instigation of the Capitol insurrection bid.

If Murdoch ever says he sees the events outside and inside the Capitol building on the 06 Jan as insurrection against the US, that should be enough for other platforms considering acting as stooges for Trump to sit up and heed the implicit legal message contained therein that Trump is a risk not worth playing with.

There was no riot on the 06th Jan at the Capitol. Riots are major street disturbances. Calling what happened at the Capitol a riot is a lie. It was insurrection playing for keeps in storming the centre of government with intent to block the legitimate governance of a country.

I'd like to think that those FoxNews channel people who spout Trump's fake news sat up and took note of AG Garland's statement that he will go where-ever the [evidence] trail leads him [even if it's to Trump himself] that if Trump was not out of bounds, they certainly would not be in promoting his aims, however distant they might think they are from him with their opinion-pieces.

beggars_bush · 01-08-2022 08:25AM

Did Trump actually bury his former wife Ivana on one of his golf courses, to get multiple tax exemptions?

Sam Russell · 01-08-2022 09:53AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119414249#Comment_119414249

If he did, he will know at least where one of the bodies is buried.

Nody · 01-08-2022 11:13AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119414249#Comment_119414249

Yes, yes he did...

From the article:

Twitter news feed by personal finance speaker Lynnette KhalfaniCox, who said: "Why did Donald Trump bury Ivana at his NJ golf course?

"Tax breaks, money & petty revenge.

"As a 'cemetery' Bedminster pays no taxes and can’t be seized in a judgment.

"Trump also charged Ivana’s estate burial, maintenance & 'membership' fees.

aloyisious · 01-08-2022 12:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119414249#Comment_119414249

I doubted if even he would go that far but.... Ivana was buried there in a private 10 grave plot at the Trump National Golf Club Cemetery [to use its official title] at his Bedminster, NY, golf club. The club was used as the venue for the Saudi-backed Liv golf event a few days ago after Ivana's funeral with [reportedly] the US Presidential seal on display-use there.

robinph · 01-08-2022 01:05PM

Surely the exception for the "cemetery" to not be able to be seized only covers that small parcel of land? Unless the cemetery has one grave at each golf green then the rest of the site would still be at risk.

duploelabs · 01-08-2022 01:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119415109#Comment_119415109

And I wouldn't thought you'd have had to get special planning permission to be able to bury someone on a random piece of land

amandstu · 01-08-2022 02:05PM

O please ,lord let the last president be buried on top of a sink hole with alligators with nose pegs swimming underneath.

pixelburp · 01-08-2022 02:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119414768#Comment_119414768

Every time you think you have the measure of just how much of a scumbag this guy was and is - you read stuff like this. Invective might be against the charter but I genuinely believe Trump is the lowest of the low.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119415140#Comment_119415140

I would guess, aside from the emotional aspects of respecting the dead, bodies decompose and burying someone in the wrong place, too close to the water table or whatnot, could have direct health consequences for the local population. Letting people bury bodies wherever they choose without the authorities knowing would open those doors.

ancapailldorcha · 01-08-2022 02:49PM

I genuinely didn't think there was anything he could do to make me think less of him but here we are. He's taken the body of his former wife and used it like a trinket to avoid paying tax. It's something you'd expect from a cold, unfeeling psychopath. In other words, Donald Trump in a nutshell.

beggars_bush · 01-08-2022 02:57PM

More to the point...

He wouldn't be part of her estate, so her children must have agreed to this. So they are complicit in this

01-08-2022 02:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119415518#Comment_119415518

Shur if I was in a public cemetery they'd probably be dealing with degenerates vandalising it constantly..

ancapailldorcha · 01-08-2022 03:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119415518#Comment_119415518

I've read Mary Trump's book. This won't have been a problem.

pixelburp · 01-08-2022 03:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119415518#Comment_119415518

Given we're talking about Donald Jr., Eric and Ivanka, I don't think in this case the apple would have strayed far from the tree. Scumbags the lot, in ascending order of ostensible intelligence (resting & equal levels of empathy). The psychopathy in that family would be vulgar and cartoonish if it was from a TV series' script.

looksee · 01-08-2022 06:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119415109#Comment_119415109

Yes, any and all exemptions or benefits from it being a cemetery only apply to the precise land that the cemetery is on.

Quote from the Mail on line (sorry)

The break applies as long as the plot of land is less than 10 acres. The designated land at Bedminster is 1.5 acres, meaning any tax exemption wouldn't apply to the entirety of the golf club.

Trump previously designated the plot as a farm to benefit from further tax breaks, as it produced mulch used for gardening.

The full law on taxation and cemeteries reads: 'Graveyards and burial grounds used or intended to be used for the interment of bodies of the dead or the ashes thereof not exceeding ten acres of ground, and cemeteries and buildings for cemetery use erected thereon, and all mausoleums, vaults, crypts or structures intended to hold or contain the bodies of the dead or the ashes thereof, and solely devoted to or held for that purpose shall be exempt from taxation under this chapter.

aloyisious · 02-08-2022 06:43AM

It seems Trump may be visiting his Doonbeg golf course in Ireland for a few days around 25 Aug. Mention has been made of the course hosting a round of the LIV tour. Looking at the news that the Irish Govt is looking at getting sports bodies to provide accommodation for Ukrainian refugees from Russia's war and mention that golf clubs may be on the list, I hope that Trump's club is not on the list of golf clubs getting taxpaid subsistence extra to whatever cost his visit will cause to both the Irish and US taxpayers.

beggars_bush · 02-08-2022 08:41AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119417727#Comment_119417727

I hope its full of them at the set rate other hotels are getting

aloyisious · 02-08-2022 04:00PM

Eric is the name of the Missouri GOP candidate Trump has given his support to in the 2022 senate elections. It's not his son though, it's either Eric Schmitt, the state AG or Eric Greitens, the Ex-Gov or Eric McElroy. The support message didn't include the surname of the chosen one though.

Schmitt tweeted "I'm honoured to receive President Trump's endorsement. From the beginning, I’ve been the true MAGA Champion fighting against the RINO establishment backing Schmitt. President Trump said it best when he characterized Schmitt’s campaign as ‘great dishonesty in politics.’"

You've got to give it to Trump, he really enjoys respect from GOP politicians.

aloyisious · 02-08-2022 04:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119417937#Comment_119417937

I don't think Trump would allow them play on the course though.

Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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