RTÉ journo given 15months for sexually assaulting woman as she slept

So he would be as well off picking up a paid hooker instead so...as they would have both being in the same mindset

To be fair this wasn't a relationship he had just met her, so it was out of line to wake her up that way.

I showed it to my partner who's as feminist and woke as they come and she said the victim impact statement was OTT and that he was wrong and he did his best to recover the situation. He f*cked up but I don't think the guy is a predator ffs.

There’s a growing trend of men avoiding marriage because the costs are too high. However, most men think that the alternative of hook-up culture carries no costs. This case demonstrates that hook-up culture can carry huge risks. It’s all ‘I want nothing serious’ until you end up in court, lose your job or have your character ruined. 

There’s a generation of young women brought up to think that men are the enemy and the cause of all their problems. Make a wrong move and all of this anger will be projected onto you. Look at the glee of some posters to see a man's life being ruined.

Men need to value their self-respect and career before risking it all on a one-night stand with women they don't know well.

that's a bit silly and presumptuous, I've woken up with people I shouldn't have and didn't want to sleep with after getting absolutely wankered and the last thing I'd want to do is have sex with them when I woke up beside them

Well she should've accepted that after she said no he stopped so that for me is a genuine guy he didnt carry on pestering her and he dropped her home and met with her next day so obviously that says something about him. The apologies should've happened and a line drawn there not a year later there's definitely more to it.

I think it's a very harsh sentence.

This wasn't a platonic friend staying in the guestroom and he entered her room and bed uninvited.

They met that night and she felt comfortable enough to return to his house, get intimate and fall asleep in his bed. He tried it on again she said no he stopped and she continued to sleep in his bed.

I've had similar happen to me and at no point did I ever consider it an assault.

If I felt things were moving in a direction I wasn't comfortable with l got out of the bed, got dressed called a taxi and went home....I certainly didn't remain in their bed.

He was also a friend of a friend of hers....there's just something about this case that has an American revenge movie feel to it.

More than likely they were probably naked/half-naked in bed anyway so their bodies would be touching involuntary as some stages while both sleeping in the same bed

How do a lot of (established) couples initiate sex? Often one party will start caressing / fondling their partner hoping to get them in the mood. Now that’s apparently all sexual assault. (Not saying it’s the same for people who’ve just met)

Ah, interesting. It strikes me as a bad rule.

I said this at the time of the verdict - it's pretty much a textbook example for a consent class.

People who drag victims down alleyways know they're breaking the law, and consent classes will be worthless for people like that.

But I bet that never in a million years did this guy imagine that what he did would get him in so much trouble. And there's many more like him, who never imagined that what they did amounted to assault or rape, yet they're convicted.

If nothing else, information about what the laws actually say, and information about the absolute legal sh!tstorm you can bring upon yourself by 'taking a chance' like this would be valuable.

The way that current clown world is trundling along, it won't be long before certain people will demand that anybody else voicing any sort of opinion that differs from theirs gets a maximum custodial sentence of 15 years, never mind 15 months.

Presumably the sentence will be appealed.

Exactly to last few comments especially where if u cuddle up half naked etc hand goes round touch breast spoon man hand lands on penis. I just think it's a big sentence for a silly mistake there are far worse things being done for lesser sentences.