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Home charge points (purchase/problems/questions) (See mod note post#1)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Maybe there's a loose/burned wire at the charge point, might be no harm to take a look.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭D_D


    Looks like the grant for home charge points will be open to all, even those without an EV;

    New grant for people without driveways to access electric vehicle charging (thejournal.ie)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,382 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Opened it up this morning and no sign of damage in the charge point itself.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭gabbo is coming


    Could someone please recommend a good installer in South Dublin for a ziggi please (which I assumenis the best based on comments posted here, but maybe not!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,194 ✭✭✭micks_address


    I had a good experience with ev power recently



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Also new grant for those in apartments or multi unit developments with parking spaces outside their house, will cover up to 80% of works including the charger. Could be €4-5k for someone to have cable run under the footpath.

    Should cover 100% because new developments have parking spaces outside houses...



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,825 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    More grants = install costs will go up for all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,322 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    The CT clamp wouldn't be next to the charge point. It would have to route back into the house towards the consumer unit or the meter box so that it can sense the whole house load.

    Maybe the clamp is in the consumer unit where the electrician was working and he disturbed it. All still guessing here but its possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭D_D


    Looking at the register of 'Triple E' registered chargers, there are not many on that list which I would have considered for my house. I was going to go with a Wallbox Pulsar Plus, a nice and neat charger but it isn't on the Triple-E register. They have the more expensive Wallbox Copper SB and Commander 2, but these are way more expensive options really aimed at businesses for their employees.

    Thanks SEAI, you've ruined another grant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,382 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    No the black EO box is beside the RCBO in the utility room.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,322 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    I don't know what's inside that black box but if there is a CT clamp it won't be in that box... it has to be in the consumer unit or the meter box (basically on the incoming house mains).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Not open for individual though as it's only available to local authorities/management companies which complicates matters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭Old Jim


    Applying for the home charger grant now that it has opened up to all. My question is what needs to be completed before the requirement to install a smart charger kicks in? Do I just need the grant approval or does actual hardware need be installed before September?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭UID0


    I think that you will need to have the charger installed and the payment request submitted before September, as the terms and conditions at the moment don't have any mention of a smart charger being required, but they do say that if the terms and conditions are modified, then the updated terms and conditions are the ones that apply.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,261 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    It’s just needs the manufacturer to register. I wouldn’t get mad yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭dingbat


    What's the best "idiot's guide" to getting a home car charging point installed that you've encountered?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,190 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    1. ring installers.
    2. get quote.
    3. ring another.
    4. get quote.
    5. repeat if required.
    6. get installed.


    Stick to wallbox or Zappi as between them they cover everything you need. PV, load balancing, smart etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,261 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Add the Ohme pro too. Even has an api that interfaces with most cars to get the SoC, do the others so that ?


    makes it really smart for optimising Tariffs and battery conditioning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,382 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,190 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I’m not sure. Or feature of the wallbox app I liked was that you can input your unit rate so it gives you a running charging cost.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,261 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    the Ohme has all that too. Even has rates available in a drop down for the most popular tariffs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I've messaged 3 installers so far (EPower, EV Charging Stations (Nigel M Daly Electrical), EV Ready) and will probably contact more. For the last 2 years I've been dealing with companies just ghosting me and not getting back to me. The fact that I have a preference for untethered probably rules out half of them as they'll just want to sell what's on hand now.

    In West Dublin if there's any more suggestions.

    Also the reason I'm looking for untethered is this will eventually be moved into my parking space, I just don't like the idea of a cable potentially being messed with. Might need to figure out something to keep it locked in place when not in use.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,725 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    They stopped doing that with the more recent version of the EO unit - Whatever was in that black box is now included in the wall charger unit itself.

    I got an EO mini installed about a year ago and don't have the 2nd box.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,194 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Final part of my charger install today. Esb networks switching over the new tails to the meter. Didn't want to fit an isolation switch in the meter box but my charger installer said to insist on it..they doing it anyway..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,194 ✭✭✭micks_address


    well that was fun... had asked for an isolation switch to be fitted in the meter box on recommendation of ev charger installer when booking the esb networks job to get the new tails into meter.. they said no problem.. guy that arrived was like no way.. they don't do that and got into a huff.. i wasnt going to debate it to long but just said the customer service rep said it was ok and he begrudgingly fitted it.. he did his job, power came back on, went off and then suddenly he drives away leaving us without any power. Was a bit stumped but after a few minutes said i better call customer service.. got through after about 15 minutes on hold.. explained the situation.. they called the guy and he was 20 minutes away so turned around and came back.. he was a bit embarrassed and checked everything.. a wire had dislodged from the trip switch the ev installer had fitted.. he complained about it and said it wasnt tight enough.. figured he was going to say he couldnt fix it but in fairness he put it back in and tightened it.. he then said the new tails werent strong enough and should weite it up as a unsafe install.. he huffed for a while and then compared the wires again and said maybe they ok and he left again.. anyway customer service called me back and opened a complaint about the case as we were without power for 2 hours rather than 15 minutes... 2 people working from home... my main gripe was him driving away without knocking in to check everything was ok... he had knocked in when he arrived and knocked in again when cutting the power.. was just amazed he didnt knock in after to say all was working fine again.... hopefully the end of the affair



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,825 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    ..bit of a saga, another one of those folk that seem to be upset for having to do their job, little bit of manners go a long way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭ElitesTeam


    Hi Guys,

    Got a second hand ABL charger, have it flashed to 7kw.

    Now I need to find an electrician, how should I approach the call.

    I want to try included the cost of the charger into the grant and not have an electrician take the whole €600.

    What should I expect them to quote over the phone or will they need to view the house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,322 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    You need to get that done asap as you may not get the grant at all after Sept as the SEAI are planning on paying grants for Smart charge points only (which that ABL unit isn't).


    What should I expect them to quote over the phone or will they need to view the house?

    They can quote over the phone but will add so many ifs/buts/maybes to the quote it won't be worth anything really until they see your actual wiring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭D_D


    Just out of curiosity, do you know if the Wallbox Pulsar Plus charger is considered 'smart' enough for SEAI's grant from September?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,322 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    I don't know. Im not familiar with all its features.... it needs to have load sensing (e.g. CT clamp) and it needs to monitor usage etc (e.g. app support).



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