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Ireland Cricket Season 2022

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭decies


    It’s a format that we are worse at



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Fattybojangles


    It's been a while but that's a very unwelcome return to the worst of our T20 play once Tector was out we were in big trouble.



  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭nice bit of green


    Yeah it seems we’re more of a Test country these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Hopefully the weather remains decent up at Stormont. Lots of cloud but fairly low likelihood of rain.



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    The same team 3 games running. Ireland the only sports team in the world where form means absolutely nothing and exploring new options isn't necessary.

    What was the point of putting Stephen Doheny in the squad. That's the Irish team picked for the world cup already. They must have an unbelievably good starting XI to know they're team 3 months out from a world. Even England and Australia don't have that luxury



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    26-0 off 3 overs, a bright and positive enough start by Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Balbernie is struggling with his timing, 6 off 15 and about 7 fresh air shots failing to get bat on ball, as I type he says ‘forget technique’ swings hard gets four via an edge, mistiming the next shot lobs in up and is caught at deep mid on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Don't think I've ever seen a worse T20 innings than that. He's not a T20 player. He hasn't the power or range of shots. His role should be hang around and anchor the innings.

    Tucker now throwing the bat around, Christ do they not realise yet they don't need a boundary ever ball. Play yourself in for an over or two. Once your eye is in then go for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Yeah it was a bit awful truth be told.

    too many dot balls costing us.

    58/1 after 6.. think we need to risk it for a biscuit now to get towards 200. Or over it.. only lost 1 wicket so …



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    2 wickets in 5 balls, there goes all the momentum. Again wickets falling in clumps. It's all too hectic. There'll be another one soon to a nothing shot straight to a fielder. I dunno what the coaching staff do to be honest. It's the same mistakes game after game. How many wickets in this series have been to good balls?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Jesus Delaney is a dead weight. Offers absolutely I'm afraid. I thought he was a prospect at one stage but found out against the better teams. He's not a top order batter, not even a lower order one tbh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    58 off last 20 balls put some respectability on it. Very unlikely to be enough though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Get Adair up the order!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Gonna need a few wickets and soon to put ourselves in with a chance



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Horrific captaincy again. He cost Ireland the first ODI and he's costing them here to.

    These players love pace on the ball it's idiotic to give it to them. The spinners were doing well why did he take them off. Campher was a lamb to the slaughter, Mitchell was waiting on him.

    Any other country would be seriously reviewing the captains position



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    The rare occasion McCarthy bowls well he gets 2 overs. Craig Young's 4 go for 49. You can't make this captaincy up. He has a pre innings plan and no matter how things are going he sticks to it. His first two overs went for 27, he's had an awful series, what was the thinking, did Balbirnie think he'd suddenly bowl differently?? Dockrell gets 2 overs for 13🙄🙄🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Yes it’s like.. ‘ we decided this.. so we have to do, this ‘.. captaincy in T20 as well as tactics needs to be fluid, flexible and intuitive… Balbernie, hmmmm



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Great hitting from Adair and Commons today. Sadly the Irish team is a closed shop, with an unchanged team announced for the next 2 series. What's the point of the interpros if there's no attention paid to them by the selectors



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Be nice alright to see some new blood.

    Ireland vs South Africa live on BT Sport 1, program starts at 18.15…match at 18.30.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    That's unlucky.. more umpires call rubbish... a centimetre costs us... if that.. Mr Magor could see that was hitting the stumps all day... unfortunately 45% of the ball not good enough.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Lorcan Tucker playing poorly... Niall O'Brien getting pissed off on commentary.. " now, Tucker needs to switch on here "... several basic misfields in a few deliveries... looks a concentration issue... we started well with ball and in the field but its gone to hell..



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    I'm afraid I'm a broken record but once again dreadful captaincy. Absolutely insane McBrine didn't bowl his full quota. Everyone else getting smashed and he's left standing around in the field. Once again I'd imagine a pre agreed plan with no reaction to the actual match direction. he's absolutely clueless.



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Josh Little could lose an arm and still bowl his 4 overs. Criminal captaincy here, 4 overs for 55, when McBrine is sitting there with 2 overs unused. The sheets says Little bowls the 19th, so he bowls it regardless of his form



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I was thinking the same...

    18 runs off Adairs final over...

    211/5.. looked midway like we might limit them to 185 - 195 or so..

    But poor fielding.. expecially the poor wicketkeeping and a total of 13 wides bowled too... 2.1 overs of wides in a T20... unforgivable...

    We won't chase this down.



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    It's the same tactics game after game. When your players aren't as good you need to be smarter, think outside the box. Adair bowling the last over hasn't worked in 4 years trying, why would it work now. I don't blame him, he's our best bowler but he's not a death bowler, stop trying to make him one.

    This exact team has been rubbish for 5 years in T20, why are no others getting a chance. They might very well fail, but this team definitely fails, mix it up there's nothing to lose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Captain falls to a shot more akin to that of a desperate tail ender.. pity.. he look good early on...brain fart however



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Exactly.. repeatedly making the same errors.. frustrating



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Tector gone.. wont look back at that shot with any fondness...too short to drive.. surely the square cut was the shot.

    Delaney gone lbw.. never looked out in real time... replay shows missing by a couple of inches... long conversation.. no review.. poor

    Campher piss poor shot goes first ball.. ahh after doing the hard work



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Would that be another glorious loss? South African bowlers showing how to limit scoring in the latter overs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,595 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    I don't really follow Irish cricket as much as I did 5 or 6 years ago but watching tonight, if this crowd could squeeze an extra 5 or 10% they'd give most teams a fairly tight game



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    That's the problem we are not a million miles off.

    Captaincy from a tactical point of view is suspect...

    Crazy number of extras... a couple of wides were so bad on height the batsman would have needed a periscope to see it... also a couple of wides were off the pitch on passing the popping crease.... jokeshop bowling...7 bowlers used too... don't see the logic of that quite honestly...

    South Africa used 5... England, Australia, New Zealand pretty much 90% of the time its their best 5 bowlers.. 7 ? Why ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Yet again we lose a tight game, while I do want to say it's experience, the likes of Stirling, Balbirnie and Dockrell have been around a long time, so really should be able to play these situations. As a full member close defeats are no longer a success, they're just defeats. Realistically from the positions we've been in this summer, the fact we haven't a single win is a real indictment of this teams mentality. They struggle to get across the line. Even the west Indies series was nearly thrown way from unbeatable positions.

    Tucker is a big positive tonight. The last 12 months he's really developed as a batsman. He could be solid no 3 it he keeps this progress. Dockrell has showed he has the shots in his locker, he just needs to start playing significant innings now, not meaningless cameos.

    Tonight showed me, we still have two major issues. Balbirnie is a poor captain. He does not read match situations, instead follows pre game plans religiously. No proactive captain would have given Little 4 overs tonight. He lets game meander along, his negative captaincy definitely cost us the first ODI V NZ.

    The second more worrying issue is the selectors. They have picked a world cup squad 12 months out from a world cup. The interpros this year were meaningless. Form means absolutely nothing, they just pick their favorites. Campher and Delaney are not in that team on form, on form they'd be nowhere near it. Tyrone Kane would offer more based on current form. David Delaney's raw pace offers a lot more than McCarthys medium pace. Realistically the captains T20 record for the last 3 years doesn't justify his position. RAdair, Doheny and Commings are entitled to a chance surely.

    A team built around Stirling, Tector, Dockrell, Adair and McBrine should be winning more game then we do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    6 batsmen out for single figure scores.

    2 batsmen scoring more then 20 runs

    as much as reasonable chase, without Tucker and Dockrell, especially with Tucker who looked like a century was in the offing at one point, playing out of his skin….without those two guys innings we’d have been absolutely destroyed..

    Balbernie just isn’t a good captain, not proactive and not at times even reactionary when he should be, like you say, let’s the game meander and sticking rigorously to plan A no matter the game situation or consequences. Poor.

    Bowlers need to stop bowling wides, too many times those free hits found their way to the boundary or over it… I lost count but must have been 8 or 9 deliveries that were required to be bowled again… as well as the run penalty, we give them an over and a bit extra to score more runs…

    its an experienced bowling lineup, no excuses….



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    6 defeats out of 6 this summer. No need to change anything though!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    SA 42-1 after 6… So one way or another we’ll be chasing a significant score you’d have to think.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    They're actually doing ok here. Keeping it tight. Little is bowling a much better length



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Yes, I’m surprised, they’ve pulled this back nicely… considering the number of wickets in hand im surprised the South Africa side are gone so conservative.. won’t last long.

    as I type , Markram puts the pedal down..sheeet. Not good from McBrine here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    But… a couple of quick wickets from Delaney and good bowling, we might be still in with a shout of limiting them to an average score. Delaney going to the boundary McCarthy following suit, like they are after getting into a good position and **** the bed. Crazy.. all over the Kip, full tosses, wides, from pissing this to fûcking it away.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    It's so frustrating that Porterfield was the very same and we had to wait so long to get rid of him. I'd kill for another Trent



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Bowlers getting slaughtered here now



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    We conceded 29 runs off McCarthy in the 17th over ffs and again, this is carnage.

    no chance in hell after 12 did it seem remotely possible for SA to get to a competitive score but again, we do the hard work and lose our nerve when pressure is applied..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    85/4 after 12.3 we had them… 155 maybe possible but 182/6. SA score 97 runs in the last 7.3 overs.

    if we don’t win this ( we won’t ) it’s the biggest throwaway shît the bed performance I’ve seen from Ireland.



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Wash, rinse repeat. His First 2 went for 9 the next two 36😞. Balbirnie won't learn though. It'll be the same next week. Overall 180 is a decent bowling effort but like Strumms said, they can't handle the pressure if batsman slogging, all plans and technique go out the window when the pressures on.

    This is chaseable so I'm expecting some very stupid, desperate dismissals early in the chase



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    The captain is going through a historic run of bad form. Never seen a batsman look so out of touch. If cricket wasn't a minority sport, and he faced genuine scrutiny, he'd be out of a job tonight. He's desperate, he didn't deserve his place in the side yet alone the captaincy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Delaney looks completely out of his depth at this level. I think it's time we pulled a reserve Smith. Forgot the batting and try develop his leg spin. He'll never be an international batsman



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Balbernie , 8 balls in a T20 international to score a duck..now hitting or should I say tapping singles ffs

    Looked like Shamsi blocked a second run being taken by Tector hmmm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Might as well just try bat the overs, make a semi respectable score…13.1 runs an over required…



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Every dismissal has been to a braindead shot. They have the cricketing intelligence of a grasshopper!

    But still, let's play the same XI next week, I'm sure it'll work then. Delaney and Balbirnie are 100s waiting to happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    My sentiments exactly. It’s not SA brilliance…it’s outrageous incompetent batting.

    other countries might look at this and surmise.. “ might turn down that invite thanks “.. worthless for SA…

    little with a leave ffs, play a shot !



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Stirling

    Commins

    R Adair

    Tector (Capt)

    Doheny (keeper)

    Kane

    Dockrell

    M Adair

    D Delaney

    Little

    M Frost

    Doubt that team would do any worse than what we've witnessed lately.



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