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What is after Death?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭85603




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,434 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    What happens after death is subjective exactly the same as what happened before you were conceived.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,434 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    You need to have a chat with your mother if you don't know where you came from.

    Your happy existence is no more or less miraculous than an oak flower getting fertilised and turning into an acorn that then is lucky enough to land on fertile soil with enough space to grow.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,180 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Once you delve into Christian theology you start to see that for questions like that there are often multiple answers because of the amount of churches with different assumptions.

    LDS Church (Mormons) believe animals go to heaven and are resurrected.



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  • Posts: 2,352 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Does nobody think the "Lord" you pray to is really a Horse?


    "The Lord" is (or perhaps was) a cat, whose owner some people believed to be the ruler of the universe. This is something all well-read people know.



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  • Posts: 542 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My best friend died of cancer. He had a tough time and wasted to nothing. He was 33, 6 weeks separated us in age.

    6 years later I had a cancer diagnosis. Saw my consultant, nothing to do but bite the bullet and start treatment after the weekend. At home that night, I dreamed of my pal. This was the first time I dreamed of him since he had died.He looked like his old self, full head of thick hair, full features and a big grin. However he was surrounded by the brightest light I had ever seen....brilliant whiter than white and I remember puzzling how on earth I could look at him withough closing my eyes from the intense brightness. I heard him say " you will get very sick but you won't die". Then he and the light faded away.

    The chemo was horrendous, so much that I had to be sedated each time I went for it. THe sight of the hospital and staff had me retching...to this day I feel sick when I see it. I refused the last round of chemo....I couldn't deal with another 4 or 5 days of vomiting and metal taste and the rest of it. My consultant begged me to finish the course, but I refused point blank. I did so believing that like my pal had predicted, I would get very sick, but would not die.

    I'm subscribe to no belief system, but often wonder based on what I experienced if there is some possibility that some part of us might survive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,352 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Most religions exploit human grief and capture people with the false promise of reuniting with their loved ones.

    Sounds like the brutal human will to survive.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    I'm not sure what you mean by the first line! Is that with reference to Boylan?

    4fm; Yeah good music, but very predictable. They only play the very very well known ones that we've heard a billion times. Radio nova would be better, and RTE gold is even superior to that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Very good post, if i do die and there's no afterlife then that's fine. It will be like going to sleep and never waking up again. If heaven exists and i get to be with all the people i like, who've passed away over the years then great. That would be awesome really. I'm comfortable with either option. I have no fears of death, although it obviously would be hard on my friends and relatives. You do hear about paranormal activity, that would possibly suggest that there is life after death.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭seamusk84


    I like to think of it as going to sleep after a long day. It’s just an eternal rest to me.

    I love life but it’s not something I would fear; As we do have to accept we are human and our bodies can’t go on forever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    There has never been a scientifically proven case of paranormal activity, so not sure there are any examples that would give you faith in an afterlife.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,950 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Hopefully someone will be able to report back. Funny no-one's done it before really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,434 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    He survived in your memories of him. It is all any of us can hope for. And for my life, I can only hope my legacy is that others saw me as a force for good especially those I loved.

    Nothing else really matters

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    It's said you die twice.

    1st when you actually die, and 2nd when the last person who remembers you dies.

    This may not be true in this technological age, as we will have so many videos of us in the cloud for many years after we are gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭WJL


    The calculation of humans who died is intriguing. At one point we had more living than ever died.

    If there is a heaven..going to be some crowd there, or maybe the majority will be in hell. Little spirits wafting about in heaven. Maybe you'll only be able to see your own people.

    The older I get the harder I find it to believe in heaven. In one sense I find the concept of eternal life more scary than a permanent sleep. Living forever and ever and ever...and you can't stop it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,750 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe



    I'd say it'll be even more true in the technological age. Nobody prints photos anymore and digital data is far less permeant.

    Websites are constantly vanishing from the internet along with swathes of digital data, nothing online is even nearly as permeant as a box of 100 year old photos stuffed away in an attic, notes and diaries written down by people in the past or even burned CDs/DVDs from the 90s.

    Sure, they might last a bit better short term and be far easier to access in your lifetime, but will anyone really care about your digital data (or will it even be around in any form) in 100 years? I wouldn't imagine so. Not nearly to the same extent as physical media from past generations anyway.

    I don't think that's the case.

    'So what are the figures? There are currently seven billion people alive today and the Population Reference Bureau estimates that about 107 billion people have ever lived.

    This means that we are nowhere near close to having more alive than dead. In fact, there are 15 dead people for every person living. We surpassed seven billion dead way back between 8000BC and AD1.'

    (from https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16870579)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭WJL




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭WJL


    Many say we'll go back to what we were before we were born. But did the act of being born change that pre birth stage forever?

    People say it's a fairytale we create for ourselves of immortality. Fair enough. But isn't our very existence at this very moment a fairytale too..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭dublin49


    I am just back from the future on Hols to experience the famous Ire v All Blacks matches and Lowry (oops) and youse are all in for a big surprise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    After death is just something for atheists and believer's to argue about, as for me it's through the never....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭prosaic


    I enjoyed the Ajan Brahm video. From the following comments, it seems nobody bothered watching it.

    Bit like life really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭WJL


    Dr. Fenwick. An enjoyable listen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭Juza1973


    In a way this was the case in Ancient China. The Emperor was the only one who could sacrifice to the spirits of his ancestors, praying them for the wellbeing of the people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Dramatik


    Step 1: you have an outerbody experience (you look down from above at your dead body)

    Step 2: you begin to float upwards, when you get to around cloud height in the sky, tethers made of energy start connecting to your body and start filling it with energy.

    Step 3: you continue to float upwards and by the point you have reached space, your body has received so much energy that it is unable to cope with any more.

    Step 4: the energy becomes too much and your body shatters into millions of tiny fragments, which fly off in all different directions and embed themselves in different parts of the universe.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 21,498 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Your body stays, that's why we call bodies remains.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,950 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    That would be an 'out of body' experience. You seem very confident about the precise process involving these 'spiritual' (?) tethers, - obviously it is not actual body, as you and LER point out, that remains here. So what explodes into the universe? And how did you gain this wisdom?



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