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Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lol and there's that accusation again. Didn't take you very long to fall back on it.

    You said:

    Well over your 100k figure, anyway

    You keep avoiding answering this very simple question in every way you can. It's very telling.

    Ok. You believe about 100,000 people have been killed by the vaccine.

    Cool.

    According to you guys, that's not a big deal.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Fr0g


    Yours wasn't a scientific study. It was based on pure speculation.

    But you want to reject a 1000 completely out of hand. No I haven't looked at them all. I don't need to. Do you understand what peer reviewed means?



  • Registered Users Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Fr0g


    BTW Twitter is a medium for communication. Don't confuse it with the message. You need to get over this obsession with Twitter. It isn't the only source of information. In fact it's a bit of a cess pool tbh.

    Anyway Twitter wasn't the source. Glad to clear that up for you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    And dodging the point again to fall back to silly insults.

    Typical really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    No, it was a scientific study. You have no idea what it was based on because you didn't read it. You just saw that it had a conclusion that you didn't like, so you decided that it was a fraudulent paper. That's it.

    Yes, I know what peer review means. The paper you lied about was peer reviewed.


    I'm not rejecting any studies. I'm just pointing out that because you are dumping shite from twitter again, and didn't bother to actually look into anything yourself or even think for yourself, you've no idea what any of those studies say or claim or support.


    The issue isn't with twitter specifically. It's just the place where grifters are able to spout nonsense and find easy marks like yourself who will reliably believe everything they are told and won't question the grift.


    Honestly now, how do you go about confirming something is true when you read it on twitter or watch it on youtube? Be specific. Tell us your process.

    Or is there no process?


    Also, I will take it from your complete lack of response or reaction that you agree with drfrost's claim that the vaccine has killed upwards of 100,000 people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭manonboard


    Yes i understand its similar to flu boosters. I get a flu booster nearly every second year or so to deal with a lung issue I have. Kind of dangerous for me to miss it depending on how medication is helping or not helping me in any specific year.

    I think its not accurate to say we are not signing up to something. By normalizing and encouraging people to get the covid jab each 9 months etc. We are indeed signing up to a new social norm. Lets be clear, I have not stated in any fashion that i dont think people should get it. I think its perfectly good for now, but i have no problem at all with people questioning where the boundary for them lays. Do i want to get a flu shot and a covid shot each year?

    I have contracted covid twice. Once after 2 shots, again after the 3rd. It was pretty harmless to me. Hopefully that's because of the shots i got. Given how easy it was on my body I would be open to missing a shot and seeing how my body handles it. The shots absolutely obliterated me each time. Each time progressively worst. The third shot REALLY hit me hard. I think its perfectly reasonable for people to question/decide if their particular boundaries are ok with yearly shots or if its just too much to ask of people.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Re: healthcare workers, of course I respect them. Who doesn't.

    What I didn't respect was the "stay at home - the hospitals are rammed" propaganda coming out during the lockdowns, whilst all these retarded dance videos in empty hospitals suggested the opposite. The real question is "who was behind that propaganda"?

    Look at that video I linked. There's over a thousand comments. Every single one is wondering the same thing.






  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    You respect them, but they are all involved in a giant global conspiracy to trick people into taking fake vaccines.


    Do tell, who was behind this "propaganda"?

    Why did they do it when it apparently gives the game away?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Okay, this is your personal "figure". Not 50k, not 200k, but 100k. And what's your methodology for this figure? are there different amounts for each country or how does it work?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Okay, however it doesn't have anything to do with "social norm". It's medical science. We have a new virus that mutates, ergo we may have to get boosters each year.

    It doesn't matter how hard or soft the shots/Covid hit you personally or even anecdotally. On a national level, boosters reduce the chance of people dying from Covid, therefore they are encouraged of obvious reasons. If you personally don't want to take them, then fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    And what's funny is how often conspiracy theorists have told us that the virus with a 99.9% survival rate (their figure) is no big deal and nothing to worry about.

    But now according to them we've only 100,000 cases of serious injury (not just death, despite the question being asked) in 10,000,000,000 vaccines.

    that's a survival rate of 99.99%. The virus is still 10 times more deadly according to conspiracy theorists.



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    Nurses didn't have to be "in on" anything. They were just entertaining themselves as they had nothing else to do.

    1. Mob gets told to stay at home because the hospitals are warzones
    2. Mob sees videos of bored nurses dancing in empty hospitals
    3. Who told Mob to stay at home, and why?

    Fck sake 😄



  • Registered Users Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Fr0g


    As I've said before it was based on mathematical modelling using assumptions. I know that because I looked at it. I'm sure the maths is correct it's the assumptions (i.e. numbers plucked out of the air, having no basis in reality) I have a problem with.

    I check all my sources. I have checked enough of those 1k studies and/or seen them before to know that that are legitimate

    The truth is leaking out. Either you can't see it yet or you don't want to. If you don't like peer reviewed scientific studies what would it take to change your mind?

    If I drove a truck load of evidence up to your door would that be enough? 2 truckloads? How many would be enough?

    The only reason you keep saying "Twitter dump" is because you have no other argument. No other way of rubbishing perfectly valid information. You have no idea where I get my info.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I check all my sources. I have checked enough of those 1k studies and/or seen them before to know that that are legitimate

    Liar.

    You did nothing of the sort. Stop trying to act all Billy Big Bollocks and just own up to the fact that you're talking rubbish.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lol. You're lying again.

    You claimed that study was fraudulent. You're claiming that they are just making up data.

    And all without reading the actual paper.


    How do you check sources? What specifically do you do?


    I keep saying twitter dump, because you guys keep dumping stuff from twitter that you don't check or look into.

    I believe it's twice now you've flipped between "I don't get my information from twitter" to "I get my info from twitter, it's totally valid."


    Where did you first see that list of studies. If it wasn't from twitter, where did you hear about it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    And questions dodged as always.

    You are claiming that they are in on it.

    You believe they had nothing to do. Yet they were also saying that they were busy.

    The medical professionals know full well what was being said about them. If people were saying they were too busy, yet knew that they weren't, why don't they say anything about it?

    Can you point to any of the people in any of those videos saying that they weren't busy or they had nothing to do?

    Of course you don't. You'll just ignore this point because you can't address it.


    So again: who was behind this "propaganda"?

    Why did they do it when it apparently gives the game away?


    I don't think you can answer this because as always, you're just parroting something you read on twitter and you're not able to make up stuff on your own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




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    Not my problem if you don't understand what "at least 100k" means.

    Won't catch me out, Dohn; you should already know that 😄 Been running rings around ya's since first gracing the forum.

    Next.



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    "Can you point to any of the people in any of those videos saying that they weren't busy or they had nothing to do?"

    The fact they have time to make choreographed dance videos together in clearly EMPTY hospitals should answer that question for you.

    Ffs man, give your head a wobble, hahaha.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Yea. It's why it was like pulling teeth to get them to actually give a figure. They know full well that this is what would happen.

    They can't give reasonable numbers because then they don't have a point.

    They can't claim what they want to claim and say millions, because that would be too obvious and too laughable.

    So they try to be vague so they can pretend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    So no, you can't point to any examples.

    So that must mean that they are all in on it or at the very least staying silent about the truth.

    Not very respectful.


    You also aren't able to say who's behind the idea. Nor can you provide a rational explanation for why they would do this when it exposes the conspiracy.

    So you have shown your claim is false.

    Good job.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    How did you come up with that figure?

    Do you think you've spotted something that medical professionals all over the world have missed?



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    Are you actually saying that these guys were in the middle of a warzone, but somehow found the time to go out into the corridors to make choreographed dance videos? Taking a break from treating all of the people dying on the other side of the walls, lol. "Not very respectful", is it? 🤣

    You're actually legit on the spectrum, dude, lmao.

    Hopefully that vaxx sparks your brain back to life. Then I'll be a believer and take one myself. Fck sake, hahaha.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    And again, you fall back to petty insults when you're frustrated by not being able to address points.

    Again, typical of conspiracy theorists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    My god, we are back to the dancing. They are all the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    286 pages in, still haven't witnessed one anti-vaxxer (or "vaccine skeptic") challenge another, even if they have completely contradictory views. Interesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    And of course if you dare to suggest that they support each other's claims, they'll flip out.

    Doesn't stop them from patting each other on the back though...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭flexcon


    Ah yes. Let's make sure to hide the conspiracy of covid -19.

    Let's post a public video of dancing even though it risks showing this whole thing is a conjob.


    There is a clear oxymoron in claiming CLEARLY empty hospitals yet at the same time trying to con the public. Which is it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭shillyshilly



    I picked a study at random from there...

    Myocarditis following COVID-19 mRNA vaccination - PubMed (nih.gov)

    A study of 6 people identified with myocarditis after vaccination

    It has in the conclusion of the full paper (not the blurb linked above)

    "The individual and public benefit from COVID-19 vaccination outweighs these rare findings described herein."

    So that can be struck off, 999/1000 ... I'll have a look through others if I fancy it, but yes, you didn't read any of these.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    "Sir, the hospitals are empty, and staff are doing nothing, but we've managed to convince everyone that it's chaos. Everything going to plan"

    -"Excellent, make some hospital staff do dance videos.."

    "Uh why?"

    -"Just do it, the sheeple will never connect the dots"



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    You were busy staying home to protect the hospitals.

    The hospital staff were busy making TikTok videos.

    Myself and the politicians were busy having parties. Downing St bashes, RTE get-togethers, Golfgate etc for them. House parties for me.

    Thanks for staying home, though 👍🏻



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    "Sir, we've managed to convince every single nation on earth, including our enemies, to fudge the Covid numbers, make it seem like many more died, whilst at the same time convincing them all to hide the vaccine deaths"

    -"Excellent, any holes in the plan?"

    "Sir, we believe a handful of maverick internet anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists will spot it, but we've arranged with moderators all across the internet to thread-ban them or put them down in conspiracy theory forums where no one will take them seriously"

    -"Perfect. Works every time"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,885 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    The dat shows the benefit of the covid vaccines is greater than many childhood vaccinations, your opinion here is irrational, which is fine, you're allowed to be irrational.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Would you say there was a global conspiracy to make it appear as if hospitals and staff were really busy, when in fact they weren't?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Would you still say Jeffery Epstein was a decent guy just "raising money for global health"? Shouldn't even be exchanging messages with the likes of you, to be honest. Creep 😄

    Good night, Dohn. Here's a tune for ya, haha.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    I have utterly no idea why you keep attributing these Epstein views to me, I think you have me confused with someone else. Show me the comments.

    I take it you aren't going to address the questions..



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    There's no confusing you with anyone. We were talking about that other creep Bill Gates meeting up a bunch of times with Epstein, AFTER he was convicted of being a pedo child sex trafficker. And you said something along the lines of "it was an honest mistake; he only met him to raise money for global health". Yeah, sure, ya numpty. Hanging out regularly with a convicted, serial pedo, fully aware that he was a convicted, serial pedo, just to "raise money for global health". Were you born yesterday? Suppose next you'll be telling us how The Royal Family only kept Jimmy Saville around to assist with charity events and DJ the occasional party 😄

    Jog on, would ya. Vomit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    So quote where he claims this.

    You are a very dishonest poster so I suspect you are lying once again.



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    Magic man, you're legit probably the person I see called dishonest on here more than anyone else, so that's ironic 😄

    Are you and Dohnjoe friends offline? You're always jumping in to defend each other. Like Romeo and Juliet, or Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels from that film I can't remember the name of. Actually, no, you two hanging out is impossible... you're both on the computer 24/7 😄👍🏻



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Mm hmm. Ranting again.

    Back up your accusation please.

    Quote where he said what you claim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,133 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Where's the conspiracy theory???

    Thread has descended into this.

    If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Weird how the pretend fence sitters have once again been struck blind and dumb to the last dozen pages of anti-vaxxer behaviour.

    The current claim now is that the vaccines have a less than 0.01% chance of seriously harming you.

    Those same conspiracy theorists have claimed that covid, which they claim has a 0.1% chance of killing you is not a concern and should be ignored.

    They are not able to reconcile this contradiction and have so far ignoring it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed


    I gave up asking this question, cause there's no answer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,331 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Ok you can't back up that statement based on the Pfizer data for 6mts and older.

    If you can post the link and your methodology in drawing those conclusion.

    The data says the complete opposite, your more likely to get sick, infected and pick up another virus after taking the Pfizer 3 shot schedule for 6mts and up.

    Have you looked at the German map since? Lol at you guys not seeing what's so obvious.

    Have you been following the Vaccine thread? They're confusing vaccine side effects with having the virus, how did they even figure out they had it, oh I feel sick after the vaccine, that means it's working well, better test myself just in case, DOH!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed


    OK so the vaccine doesn't work, what's the conspiracy?

    Was it just a failed attempt at ending a virus, or what?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,331 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Yea, been 287 pages. He can't give you a straight answer. None of them can.

    They can't give you a straight answer because twitter doesn't provide them with one.

    The grifters have to keep things vague to keep the grift going, so all they have are this vague insinuations that they think sound cool and impressive.

    And now they've been cornered again, they're going to try and act all aloof and pretend to answer questions with evasive one liners.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed


    Just a simple answer would be grand. The vaccine doesn't work, it is either a fake or a failed attempt. If its fake why?



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