Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

I would imagine a hotel room with three meals a day would cost at least €150/200 a night

150 x 7 is €1050 a week ( €150 is a low estate )

Whatever the Room or person Rate hotels are getting for Ukranian Refugees there are extra charges to include food, laundry, housekeeping and maintenance costs we can be sure are being billed to government.

Hotels are also benifiting substantially on reduce staffing and operational costs as they've essentially stopped all standard services a hotel would normally offer, in addition to reduced staffing and operational costs they've also have no marketing or booking costs, it's a complete win win for them. And they would have Been indemnified against any losses of revenue through cancelled events and loss of profits.

It's impossible to pin down an actual cost per person rate per day and I'd assume the deals done would be per room rate for accommodation rather than per person and food service billed per person and set weekly charge for laundry /House keeping services.

So it's not just what it's costing to accommodate refugees, it's a cash cow for certain hotels and costs go way beyond accommodation.

But the damage being done to local economies iis ncalculable and to the tourist sector also. To be fair, those in the industry saw the season was going to be a disaster and now 2023 looking even worse. Its hard to knock hotels grabbing the opportunity but the lack of transparency on what this is truely costing is alarming.

Those who've experience of the sector, understand operational costs, ARR, staffing requirements, marketing etc, know full well substantial profits are being made.

Yes indemnity in place and maintenance costs factored in, there is Zero possibility of loss for hotels signed up

It's actually beggar's belief the lack of reporting on the RC entire handling and involvement in this crisis albeit they really shouldn't have been involved from the outset and was just another example of this government shifting responsibility elsewhere.

The RC true failing was not being honest from the outset and being honest about being overwhelmed making an already intolerable situation, worse.

I don't believe anything untoward happened with Donations but absolutely agree the incompetence was breathtaking and almost negligient when they just essentially stood by and allowed things get worse instead of telling the Government, Pause, re think and get their act together.

Incompetence. And yes indeed if you have failed due to lack of resources and haven't demanded them that is incompetence.

It goes right up to the sub committee too. It's ultimately their job to correct the failings.

Now I imagine the people on the ground worked their bollíx off, I'm obviously not blaming them.

I think what has annoyed me the most though is the claim 1000s of people didn't answer their phones, which was probably true, but they left out the part where there was no way to return the missed calls.

Couldn't agree more and it struck me of late with most people struggling as cost of living bites, had this crisis just began a month ago there'd be a fraction of the generosity shown, not because people don't care but they'd not have the resources or wherewithal to actually offer such supports. Some individuals think housing and inflation started last March, they are simply dillusional.

Caught the end of an interview on Morning Ukraine (Ireland), RTE RADIO 1, and I thought I'd heard it all, now there's a plea for September for all those with Holiday homes to consider letting them be used for winter. Mother of God, when they were offered, they either weren't taken up or meet the high standards, seemingly government expects for Ukranians but not for those in DP or emergency Accommodation.

I felt quite Nauseated after the interview.

Come September this is going to go from absolute farce to absolute disaster.

Frankly I care less who reported calls weren't answered, at that stage people who had pledged had either changed their mind, had just gone and made arrangements themselves or I'd wager the majority said enough of this nonsense.

Regardless, it's been a shambles from the outset and calling the army in when they did was akin to sending troops in when the battle was already lost.

The army was called in when the damage was done. The pledges were made almost immediately by the public, the Red Cross should have had people in place from the start, before appeals of help, be it their own few staff (and should have been recruiting at the onset) or with help from the army.

By the time the army were called, they were essentially picking up the pieces from the shambles left behind from the Red Cross. Looking back on it, it was a fund raising exercise from the RC and nothing else.

Have you a child you requires a special needs assistant in primary school?

No your being ridiculous, how long do you expect people to be "expecting " a call from the RC or later Army , A MONTH, 2 MONTHS, 3 MONTHS 🙄, what numbers were they supposed to "expecting "