The Pushback against Leftism

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I didn't know that was in Westport this weekend

That particular incident is very very different to what happened in Westport. Comparing the two is completely absurd. I don't know the full context of that event. It's not something I support. The event in Westport was perfectly fine. Very different situations and can't be compared. The moral panic that there might be male strippers in Westport is absurd and laughable.

No, probably not at all in this country but that is not the point. Just because something is not happening does not justify that it should be allowed to happen. Surely you can come up with a better argument than that, did you bother to read back the thread? This exact point was already argued.

Right so basically your ridiculous doomsday scenarios just haven't happened.

Yeah that's what you said, it hasn't happened. I replied to that, did you read my reply? Do you have any counter or are you just going to keep repeating yourself like a parrot?

4-8 year olds absolutely were exposed to all the things I mentioned in the 90s, and are probably even more exposed now (most of it heterosexual stuff). All the things I mentioned contained and employed imagery, themes and language that are, by mere definition, adult entertainment too. I mean, Jesus, Christina Aguilera’s “Dirty” probably kickstarted puberty for a whole swathe of fellas born in the late 80s and early 90s and was as raunchy as manys a drag show.

I mean, would you be as utterly outraged if any artists known for highly sexualised content like Lady Gaga, Dua Lipa, Rihanna etc etc etc were in a classroom reading a book to kids? Like, if the concern here is that children will see Panti Bliss in person and immediately ...(well what actually?)...Google the name and be exposed to that content and become sexually traumatised? Well surely the same applies to pretty much any popular artist whose shows contain sexually imagery.

i just get the feeling sometimes that it’s the mere shock of the image of seeing someone like Panti Bliss around children which immediately fuels this uproar of SEXUALISING CHILDREN!!! all while the bias of one’s own orientation means they are less inclined to think that way about performers who sell heterosexual imagery and themes. You just aren’t going to see people freaking out about Lady Gag a being around children in a sparkly skirt to the same extent as when it’s something more, well, gay.

Well, I’m not actually saying that “nothing is off limits” because of those things (in fact, I think a lot of it is exploitative whether it’s heterosexual or whatever else) — I’m merely saying that there seems to be strong bias inherent in outrage towards perceived sexualisation of children when it pertains to something which has homosexual or otherwise non-heterosexual connotations than there is when it’s something heterosexual. That makes me think that the outrage around sexualisation is not really about sexualisation at all for some or perhaps many people, but rather a perceived ‘gay-ification’. I’m just pointing out that the outrage of sexualising children seems to ignore the almost culturally endemic selling of sex (of the hetero variety) to children and focuses on the far more limited examples of when it’s something perceived as gay.

Now, it’s probably not necessary to answer your question as I’ve clarified that I’m absolutely not saying that the phenomenon I’ve referenced means that nothing is off limits. But to answer it anyway, it’s all about the degrees. Someone posted a video there of a semi naked woman walking around holding a child’s hand in a club with shake your ass music etc — that’s obviously more than a bit weird. A burlesque artist wearing a full-on heavily sexual and revealing outfit also weird. But in the picture of Panti Bliss, it’s a flamboyant get up yeah, but it’s not exactly sexually suggestive or revealing. I don’t know what the book is but presuming it’s not gay erotic fiction.