The Pushback against Leftism

You mean sweeping generalisations like your church metaphor from earlier on?

If such a large number of cancelling 'victims' belong to the right, would they not consider that perhaps the views that get them into trouble represent those of a very small minority, seeing as there is much objection to them?

When it most resembled a Marxist economy it was the most murderous State in human history, by a large margin.

So being less Marxist isn't a bad thing.

Marxism has flaws, everything does, but it seems to attract deeply flawed people who turn it in to a very righteous faith, overwhelmingly middle class and convinced that they are good people and those opposed to them are not and everything is an option against such people because they are fighting progress, empathy and the greater good.

It's a lot of the reason why left wing parties often hate each other and especially have problems internally.

Why they often have policies that are completely contradictory.

It feels like the Left threw in the towel 30 years ago on a lot of practical day to day politics.

Yet why exactly do you think that certain people are the ones who get to decide when language evolves? Who gave them the power? The reality is, no one did, they took it, and tried to force their own standards on others, with no debate about it. The evolution, as you call it, from illegal to undocumented was the creation of activists who don't believes in concepts like people being "illegal". Illegal is far more accurate too than undocumented, because they are in a country illegally. When someone commits a crime we don't say they committed an undocumented act, we say an illegal act, because it's far more accurate.

Even worse, this stuff is directly imported from America, by people who oddly claim that American politics has little to no influence over Ireland, when that's clearly not the case.

If you go through this thread and measure the insults, you'll notice that they mainly come from the people defending the concept of the "left, and not the other side. There's a serious level of defensiveness of even emotionalism too, which isn't one bit healthy.

I never said you used a perjorative. No need to deny something I didn't accuse you of.

I am merely pointing out that you made a sweeping generalisation then a few posts later complained about people making sweeping generalisations and suggested that those who make sweeping generalisations are often accusing others of what they themselves are guilty of. It is quite interesting that you would suggest that, given your own instance of the same thing.

Tondeflect, you are now denying accusations I didn't make and trying to drag in other posters which have nothing to do with your original post.

Much as you believe that those who call Conservatives stupid cannot be taken seriously in a political debate, I feel that hypocrites cannot be taken seriously so I'll stop.dragging the thread off topic; I just hope other posters have a better idea of who they are dealing with now.

"Language doesn't evolve" - Christ, is this the level of debating going on in here? Of course language evolves. Are you still using the same grammar and vocabulary as someone did in Ireland 500 years ago?

'Swathes' - 'storming' - Listen to yourself, Nigel, just listen to yourself. A person literally cannot be illegal. It's not surprise given your worldview that you can't grasp that, but sure, we're in a thread dedicated to it, so what can you do?

Yes, the whole of the evolutionary linguistics scientific community, just paid shills of Soros (did I do that rightly?), deep staters, trying to stop you from using the N word, 'illegals' etc., the horrid crew.

I agree that these 'narratives' are all divide and conquer tactics but coming from both sides imo. As people at the top of the liberal establishment are themselves rich (and often old and white, though not always - and nor are conservatives either exclusively old or male or even white) and pretty good at hoarding wealth. Beverely Hills is a liberal community and environmental laws acts as protectionism for wealthy land interests there, as just one example.

I don't identify as a 'conservatives' nor support them as such. I was attracted to SF recently for a while but have soured on them since for various reasons.

I don't believe in the drag shows for children etc. As long as this stuff is the face of leftism then I would call myself anti-leftist.

It says more about the person using the term than it does about how I feel, just trying to help those from mortifying themselves in public, but you carry on there, chief.

And tell me this... We all agree above, including me, that someone entering the jurisdiction without visa etc has broken the law... Do you call everyone that has broken the law (and please only do that inside your head, lest you embarrass yourself) 'illegals'?

You're contradicting yourself in the space of two sentences.