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  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭ZenNature


    I got most of my numbers from Reuters, FT, CNBC, and The Atlantic Council (a Washington based western anti-Russia think tank) .

    So you dont believe those sources. Maybe you think their numbers are wrong and that they are useful idiots.

    To bury your head in the sand and ignore reality is not a good position to take. People should face up to the reality maybe then they can fix it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Where do you think they got their numbers from. It’s unlikely that they picked them from their arse, and so I’d expect them to be reporting the numbers that Russia releases.


    If things were as rosy in Russia as you imply, they wouldn’t be whinging about sanctions.


    If sanctions weren’t having an impact, you and your colleagues most likely wouldn’t be protesting how much they are failing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    If you've lived a lifetime of the possibility of a visit from shady people, hints of threats, neighbours who'd turn you in in a heartbeat, prison for almost anything it shapes your mindset to keep your head down. People here are likely to have family back in Russia, that's a real fear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭ZenNature


    These outlets have analysts who do nothing but monitor Russia finances all year long, there no reason to believe they havent verified the numbers they are publishing. Your entering conspiracy theory now if your implying the FT, Reuters, CNBC and The Atlantic Council would allow themselves to publish pro-putin spin without checking the numbers themselves.

    Like I said ignoring FACTS is not a healthy way to live. If you dont think Russia is making money hand over fist you are entitled to that opinion. The global economic media all attest to the FACT RUSSIA is making record profits, its just maths, what do you think is moving the ruble to a 15 year high, RUSSIA is coining it. And on top of that theres little the west can do to stop Russia converting any yuan, rupee or other payments for this oil into a currency of their choice.

    Show me where I said things were rosy in Russia.

    Ive said the EU will send RUSSIA circa 500 million Euro today and China and India are both increasing Russian imports. Thats just FACTs.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    They are not meaningless (the redirection of sales has not made up for what they have and will lose to Europe), energy sanctions are not the only sanctions and there are reasons far beyond "punishing" Russia for moving away from Russian energy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    It's the nature of how you seem to be using said facts that people are asking questions about, mostly by the looks of things to beat people over the head with. A post full of facts just shows an ability to find and present facts, not necessarily to illuminate any argument. You're as blind as the rest of us when it comes to all the facts as they are understandably being hidden, so at best your thoughts are half-thoughts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭Field east




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭UsBus


    Putin in Turkmenistan at the moment. No better opportunity to just end this now. There has to be massive level of intelligence on his every move in a country much more manageable than russia



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭shivaz


    They sail off into the sunset with their tail between their legs...hopefully.

    photo_2022-06-30_08-57-05.jpg

    "It is reported that this is how Snake Island looks today.They write that 3 small-sized ships departed from the island. The island is empty. Orcs blew up the rest of the equipment and drove off into the sunset on the Raptors.

    The information needs to be confirmed."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    We just need to load someone up with Covid and get them to let off a big sneeze directly into putins face



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,661 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Hear hear. We are at war with these fuckers and they and their "some of my best friends are Russian " apologists need to be sent back to their god forsaken motherland.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,288 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Ah yes Iran and Libya, sanctioned states doing so well. North Korea another. Now Russia has oil and gas, that and waving around nukes are their only trump cards, but yep they're big ones and Europe's reliance on these commodities as Russia's primary customer particularly Germany has indeed resulted in the farce of paying Russia to keep prosecuting this land grab war. No argument there. This has caused a further spike in oil/gas prices to Russia's benefit. Certainly in the short to medium term. However....

    what do you think is moving the ruble to a 15 year high,

    You see that's not nearly the positive you think it is and Russia trumpets and spins it is. Even Russia knows this. When it first tumbled in value among other capital controls they raised interest rates to a massive 20% to try and control it, they've since dropped it three times to try and dial back its rise(last time I looked it's back to 10%). That's some clever accounting in response to a major crisis, not the positive you think. It's so high because while they've been raking it on from oil, but those "sanctions that aren't working" have meant they can't buy foreign currency, they can't import goods using their cash to nearly the same degree and they can't send their wealth abroad on top of the capital controls of Russia's finance ministry. They've gone from trading back and forth with the world to trading one commodity abroad and trading with themselves. A strong currency means your exports become more expensive and that's OK if you can use all that cash to buy stuff from outside for your economy. They can't.

    TL;DR? The rise of the rouble is actually proving sanctions are working.

    And for the future? Russia is cut off from the industrial, financial and political world, at least the part of the industrial, financial and political world that actually counts. A mickey mouse trade deal with say Mali won't come close to making up for the loss of a similar trade deal with say France. Though I can see putin not caring and prefering a new Soviet Union commonwealth of little mickey mouse states where Russia's the boss. They're cut off from international air travel and for the foreseeable. Even their apparent best buds China have closed their airspace to the Russian operated Airbus/Boeing fleet. Their own homegrown fleet was utterly reliant on now sanctioned western tech for engines and avionics. Can they replace that? yep, but this isn't Soviet times with a long established and much bigger more populated command economy so it's going to take a long time and what they produce will have to be signed off by the international aviation authorities. The same authorities who've been badly stung by Russia. Good luck on securing insurance, so they'll have to underwrite that too. Leasing is dead to them for the foreseeable and that goes way beyond the aero industry. That's before we look at the massive flight of non Russian businesses from their country leaving a considerable number of Russians unemployed and a rising poverty rate since this war kicked off, which Russia's own figures show. Oh sure some oligarch can bring McDonaldski back, but while they can make burgers and chips easily enough, they can't make silicon chips nearly so easily anymore. And that's before we consider the brain drain and demographic timebomb that Russia was looking down the barrel of before all this and has been accelerated because of all this.

    TL;DR? putin wanted a return to the Soviet Union of sorts? Well in this he looks to be getting his wish.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭shivaz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    So, yesterday Putin was not bothered if Sweden and Finland join NATO.

    Today Putin is doing his nut over the same thing.

    An odd fella that Putin.

    Dan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Russian Quantum Theory :

    It's not a lie if someone, somewhere, has a cat that's stupid enough to believe it.



  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bernie Ecclestone telling ‘Good Morning Britain’ that he’d take a bullet for Putin and that he’s a “sensible and first class person”!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,139 ✭✭✭thomil


    Bernie Ecclestone telling ‘Good Morning Britain’ that he’d take a bullet for Putin

    I'm sure something could be arranged...

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    One thing I will always say about our defence forces; that is they excel at peacekeeping and the tricker part of army work. I do support the idea that we can help train Ukraining support crews in bomb disposal and making safe IEDs.

    Quote from the story:

    Sources within the Defence Forces had told The Journal in March that there was a hope among the ranks that Irish troops would be asked to provide their expertise in training Ukrainian forces. 

    Dan.



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  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Scorched earth...Shur, Ivan... what can you expect from a pig, but a grunt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    From Madrid NATO meeting

    Russia identified as main threat to NATO, rather than “partner”: A new 2022 Nato strategic concept document published.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    ROFL 🤣


    Russia as a gesture of goodwill withdrew the garrison from the island of Zmeiny

    The Ministry of Defense announced the withdrawal of the garrison from the island of Zmeiny as a gesture of goodwill


    Translated from - Russia as a gesture of goodwill withdrew the garrison from the island of Snake - RIA Novosti, 30.06.2022


    Good will stunting again. Apparently to let the grain out.



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    When this is done it's the kind of aid that should be focused on. **** massive areas are going to need clearing. I wouldn't be surprised if away from the front lines there aren't people working on new methods/machines for doing the work in future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69



    That “man” is disconnected from reality. Why would you go on tv and say that ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Ukraine general thanks troops for Snake Island victory

    the snakes have been liberated

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    When you are 91 you can say almost anything you like and people will smile sympathetically.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭seenitall


    He’s 90-something*. Clearly losing his marbles, as is known to happen at that age.

    *I know, I know…… so is Clint Eastwood…….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,133 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    "goodwill gesture" 😂 You couldn't make it up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,628 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



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