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Tiernan Kelly Incident

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,622 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Gouging aside there was feck all to it bar a bit of pushing and shoving. Only seen one punch thrown and thankfully it landed on Kelly's chin

    Galway will not be making a deal of this as they will want to avoid any suspensions. And looking at the videos of it what Galway Player could you suspend ? When the stamp wasnt punished last week then how can you suspend players for a bit of pushing and rolling around

    Plus suspensions only penalise Galway when it was Armagh who were acting the dicks throughout



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭Pdoghue


    Go back and look at the incident and form an opinion as to whether there was 'feck all to it bar a bit of pushing and shoving.' Maybe have a look a few times to let it sink in. Then tell me how players can't be suspended for that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,738 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    It was a massive fight filmed on prime time TV and in front of 71'000 people.

    Just because people werent carried off in ambulances doesnt make it ok.

    And its a complete strawman to say Galway wont make a big deal of it - why the hell would they? They deserve to be punished for it, of course they will try to play it down.

    As for Padraig Joyce saying "penalties arent part of GAA"......what about massive scraps at the end of games?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,622 ✭✭✭Robson99


    What punches were thrown aside from the one at Kelly and what players should be suspended ? Impossible to single out players. Large fine for bothe County Boards and a lengthy Ban for Kelly.



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    One rule change needed is that any contact when the ball isn't in play is a straight sending off and tournament ban for the player who initiated. I honestly don't know how anyone can watch football these days without being embarrassed, 90% of the game is trying to goad an opponent into reacting, it's absolutely pathetic to watch.

    Armagh are what they are. My dad played in 3 counties when he was younger and there was never not a fight playing in Armagh. I unfortunately live somewhere with a lot of international day labourers and we all know what they are.

    3 games in a row, when someone shows you what they are, believe them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭Pdoghue


    Let me ask you this. How well do you know the GAA rules? Do you know all the red card offences ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,622 ✭✭✭Robson99


    What players would you suspend on either team . Simple question



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭Pdoghue


    Let me spell it out for you. A red card offence is contribution to a melee. That's what the captains were sent off for. Why couldn't any of the match officials identify any of the other culprits? I mean referee, 2 linesmen, and 4 umpires. The sanction for aforementioned offence is a one match suspension.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,622 ✭✭✭Robson99


    No need to spell it out a mhac. Both those red cards will be rescinded. Now answer the question.... what players can be singled out for suspension after you analize the videos.

    Match officials couldn't see what was happening right in front of them during the game let alone at the final whistle. Coldrick hopefully will be given a rest for a while as he didn't deal with the obivious when he should have



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    Ah give over. You made the comparison. The next post then was insulting a Dublin fan and saying you'd be wondering what's happening in his life that he has such anger issues.

    And you never answered my question as to what's going on in your life that you'd even bring something like the kanturk shooting into a football thread.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭Pdoghue


    Ah come on, seriously. Have a look at some of the still images and videos and tell me at least one of the officials wasn't next to it! Your attitude seems to be, if we can't find all the offenders, we shouldn't sanction anyone. Classic whataboutery and so Irish. And of course the players are under these instructions; one in, all in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭Staleturnips


    "I unfortunately live somewhere with a lot of international day labourers and we all know what they are."

    This is not a leading question, but wth does that mean?!



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The "we" refers to locals. The rest means what it means.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭Staleturnips


    International day labourers are unemployed IRA men?



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No they're employed alright, just probably not on any forms anywhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,449 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    In fairness, McGeeney condemned it unequivocally

    Did he? Can you post a link?

    What I read was the exact opposite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭Grats


    Let me clarify. County Boards do all they can to get bans scrapped. A recent example was the Fahy case. Galway didn't speak out against the player. I don't expect Armagh to speak out either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭SunnySundays



    Eyre Square is over run on Saturday with loving father's treating their privileged sons to a latte alright!!! Have you ever stepped foot in Galway?!

    The long & short of it is that unless that GAA come out strong on automatic lengthy ban for eye gouging, stamping and blows to the head, with no right to appeal, then this will continue.

    If the two previous brawls Armagh were involved in were addressed properly, the likelihood of yesterday's one would be reduced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭Staleturnips


    Arrgh sure look you couldn't blame them. Nowadays its forms this and computers that, and all it does complicate things. Sure Tom said he wouldn't have minded paying a bitta tax but the bastards wouldn't take cash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,622 ✭✭✭Robson99


    I just can't see how they can single out anyone in particular. Legals will be all over it. Look at all the videos. Sean Kelly and Nugent done nothing IMO

    Lazy cop out by the officials



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  • Posts: 14,708 [Deleted User]


    I don't know why there is such shock about this, these guys are Neanderthals who are waiting to catch up with the rest of the species.

    On a serious note, this is the third time this has happened this season and if it wasn't for the eye gouging, it would be seen as just another fracas between over excited players. But it is more than that of course and the GAA either gets to grips with it with lengthy suspensions or hefty fines, or they just come out and say that they are ok with this type of behaviour. By rights there should be action taken by the Armagh County Board, but of course that will not happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,591 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    They seem to have an inferiority complex in both Armagh and Tyrone. As someone said left to the Wolves by the South.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭Field east


    So the soccer, rugby ,cricket , rounders, darts, swimming bowls, boxing , etc participants had a totally different experience. Oh wait I forgot that they are all members of the same population so there MUST BE ANOTHER REASON



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭Field east


    So we better watch out for any Ukranian in our mist when the war is over !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    Lads adrenaline charged to the max. All on the line after a year of training and working for every inch.

    Happens in afl, nrl, nfl , nhl etc all the time but it's only the Irish who turn it into a cry fest.

    The eye goucher is a scumbag and should face a lengthy ban. A year minimum.

    As for the rest of the " incident "?

    Move on. Dry the eyes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90,957 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Am I correct he wasn't playing or a sub, should be banned for life imho either way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    That perennial victim mentality is a fairly common ocurrance. I remember some drunk Nordie in an Irish bar in the US who was roaring and shouting about "bastards in the South"..........someone who knew him said that the fucker had moved to the US when he was about 16 when his father was transferred over as a manager with his company and I'd say he wouldn't have been 5 years old when the GFA was agreed. All he was doing was itching for a row and making himself out to be some sort of IRA hardman. To hear him, you'd think he'd been on hunger strike and been fighting trench warfare with the British army for years.

    He was the Nordie equivalent of a LOI fan who shows his sincere Irish patriotism by wearing a Celtic jersey with his grey tracksuit bottoms while running around outside a city-centre pub throwing chairs at lads wearing some other LOI club jerseys. Tiocfaidh ar la!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,008 ✭✭✭jackboy


    The frequency of these brawls is definitely decreasing in recent years but not stamped out yet. Twenty years ago, players leaving the pitch in an ambulance after club match brawls was not uncommon and I saw it happening several times. Some club matches used to have large attendances just because a brawl was guaranteed. It is always always the teams with little talent that start these brawls.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,449 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    He's out injured. So wtf was he even doing there other than being an absolute cnut.

    He'll be a hero in Armagh too btw.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Obviously gouging someones eye is an awful act, but the gaa had a case on donaghy himself previously and they fudged it. Does that mean there is a precedent as regards punishment? This is the end result of punishments not being harsh enough - repeat cases.

    Another issue for me is the lead up to it. It is only fair to point out that Comer himself instigated a lot of the melee with his antagonistic atittude. These things have no place in the game and again, the lack of meaningful punishment is a root cause here.



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