Armagh have shown their true colours once more, they have been at this shite for years.
Hopefully the Armagh board wont be appealing the upcoming penalties against this incident like they did against Donegal.
So we better watch out for any Ukranian in our mist when the war is over !
So the soccer, rugby ,cricket , rounders, darts, swimming bowls, boxing , etc participants had a totally different experience. Oh wait I forgot that they are all members of the same population so there MUST BE ANOTHER REASON
They seem to have an inferiority complex in both Armagh and Tyrone. As someone said left to the Wolves by the South.
I don't know why there is such shock about this, these guys are Neanderthals who are waiting to catch up with the rest of the species.
On a serious note, this is the third time this has happened this season and if it wasn't for the eye gouging, it would be seen as just another fracas between over excited players. But it is more than that of course and the GAA either gets to grips with it with lengthy suspensions or hefty fines, or they just come out and say that they are ok with this type of behaviour. By rights there should be action taken by the Armagh County Board, but of course that will not happen.
I just can't see how they can single out anyone in particular. Legals will be all over it. Look at all the videos. Sean Kelly and Nugent done nothing IMO
Lazy cop out by the officials
Arrgh sure look you couldn't blame them. Nowadays its forms this and computers that, and all it does complicate things. Sure Tom said he wouldn't have minded paying a bitta tax but the bastards wouldn't take cash.
Eyre Square is over run on Saturday with loving father's treating their privileged sons to a latte alright!!! Have you ever stepped foot in Galway?!
The long & short of it is that unless that GAA come out strong on automatic lengthy ban for eye gouging, stamping and blows to the head, with no right to appeal, then this will continue.
If the two previous brawls Armagh were involved in were addressed properly, the likelihood of yesterday's one would be reduced.
Let me clarify. County Boards do all they can to get bans scrapped. A recent example was the Fahy case. Galway didn't speak out against the player. I don't expect Armagh to speak out either.
In fairness, McGeeney condemned it unequivocally
Did he? Can you post a link?
What I read was the exact opposite.
No they're employed alright, just probably not on any forms anywhere.
International day labourers are unemployed IRA men?
The "we" refers to locals. The rest means what it means.
"I unfortunately live somewhere with a lot of international day labourers and we all know what they are."
This is not a leading question, but wth does that mean?!
Ah come on, seriously. Have a look at some of the still images and videos and tell me at least one of the officials wasn't next to it! Your attitude seems to be, if we can't find all the offenders, we shouldn't sanction anyone. Classic whataboutery and so Irish. And of course the players are under these instructions; one in, all in.
Ah give over. You made the comparison. The next post then was insulting a Dublin fan and saying you'd be wondering what's happening in his life that he has such anger issues.
And you never answered my question as to what's going on in your life that you'd even bring something like the kanturk shooting into a football thread.
No need to spell it out a mhac. Both those red cards will be rescinded. Now answer the question.... what players can be singled out for suspension after you analize the videos.
Match officials couldn't see what was happening right in front of them during the game let alone at the final whistle. Coldrick hopefully will be given a rest for a while as he didn't deal with the obivious when he should have
Let me spell it out for you. A red card offence is contribution to a melee. That's what the captains were sent off for. Why couldn't any of the match officials identify any of the other culprits? I mean referee, 2 linesmen, and 4 umpires. The sanction for aforementioned offence is a one match suspension.
What players would you suspend on either team . Simple question
Let me ask you this. How well do you know the GAA rules? Do you know all the red card offences ?
One rule change needed is that any contact when the ball isn't in play is a straight sending off and tournament ban for the player who initiated. I honestly don't know how anyone can watch football these days without being embarrassed, 90% of the game is trying to goad an opponent into reacting, it's absolutely pathetic to watch.
Armagh are what they are. My dad played in 3 counties when he was younger and there was never not a fight playing in Armagh. I unfortunately live somewhere with a lot of international day labourers and we all know what they are.
3 games in a row, when someone shows you what they are, believe them.
What punches were thrown aside from the one at Kelly and what players should be suspended ? Impossible to single out players. Large fine for bothe County Boards and a lengthy Ban for Kelly.
It was a massive fight filmed on prime time TV and in front of 71'000 people.
Just because people werent carried off in ambulances doesnt make it ok.
And its a complete strawman to say Galway wont make a big deal of it - why the hell would they? They deserve to be punished for it, of course they will try to play it down.
As for Padraig Joyce saying "penalties arent part of GAA"......what about massive scraps at the end of games?
Go back and look at the incident and form an opinion as to whether there was 'feck all to it bar a bit of pushing and shoving.' Maybe have a look a few times to let it sink in. Then tell me how players can't be suspended for that.
Gouging aside there was feck all to it bar a bit of pushing and shoving. Only seen one punch thrown and thankfully it landed on Kelly's chin
Galway will not be making a deal of this as they will want to avoid any suspensions. And looking at the videos of it what Galway Player could you suspend ? When the stamp wasnt punished last week then how can you suspend players for a bit of pushing and rolling around
Plus suspensions only penalise Galway when it was Armagh who were acting the dicks throughout
Joe Kernan put a Crossmaglen side together that won 3 All Ireland club titles between 1996 and 2000 when times were much tougher due to what you describe for that team than any of the present Armagh team wiithout any of the carry-on we have seen from Armagh this year, so I would not look at that as any type of valid excuse.
A lot of Helen Lovejoys on this thread Kelly will be banned and rightly so but the pearl clutching is absolutely hilarious you'd swear this was the first time this had ever happened on a field ffs!
It's a bit like a teacher trying to sort out a school yard brawl, it doesn't help when the injured party stands up and says 'ah no, it was just a bit of messing'. The Galway man of the match said the brawl at full time probably did them good because they needed waking up a bit.
Has Comer said anything about it yet?
I would not see that as any justification. The Good Friday Agreement was signed 24 years ago and this Armagh team have grown up in a different society. This is the third time this year that Armagh have been involved in this carry-on and got away with it on the two previous occasions. Question really have to be asked as to why Armagh management have been running to solicitors looking for loopholes looking to get people off rather than putting a stop to it. McGeaney`s old blather on MMA I would not see as a help in that regard either.
morto for you
I'm not sure why you are bringing up the Fahy incident. I didn't defend it and its a pure farce that he was able to get off on a technicality like he did.
My post about what Armagh should do next was based on the idea that if they take some form of action now instead of waiting for Croke Park then that might reduce the severity of the punishment they end up with.