Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

It’s a discussion forum . Should only guys in lab coats be allowed to discuss here?

If you wade through the research re diabetes, there is no proven direct link yet to onset of diabetes as a result of cov2 infection. There is proven evidence of increased prevalence of diabetes and it will become a burden, however the factors contributing to this increase are myriad and many, according to, and acknowledged by current research;

• increase in diabetes worldwide in advance of the arrival of Covid.
• proven indirect contributions to hyperglycaemia by Covid infection - steroid administration, severe stress, extreme autoimmune reaction.
• comorbidities, particularly hypertension and cardiovascular, as well as high BMI.
• socioeconomic and environmental effects of lockdown.
• risk skewed highly by age.

Basically if you’re otherwise healthy and not elderly, your risk of developing diabetes solely as a result of Covid where hospitalisation is not required, is pretty much non existent. This is not to say increased prevalence of diabetes in general is not a problem, just to provide some perspective.

The physical and mental health of the Irish population at least, went well down during Covid, due to the lockdowns. There is even a thread in boards about losing the Covid weight. It only makes sense that after the lockdowns that there would be a significant spike in diabetes and a variety of other illnesses. It will take a really long time to separate the covid illnesses from the lockdown illnesses.

What a load of bolloxology.

1. Where did I say "I dont like reading about it"? I'm on this thread to keep abreast of things and discuss things, but some posters clearly don't like being challenged.

2. I didn't say it was "just a dry cough", but that is apparently one of the "symptoms" of Covid. So if one has a dry cough for a few weeks post-Covid infection, they are statistically a "long Covid sufferer" - but is that really a debilitating symptom? Hence I believe statistics are very misleading.

3. "Fingers in ears"...I don't know who that's aimed at, but just because some of us don't obsess over every minute Covid detail, as you do, doesn't equate to us ignoring it.

4. You keep talking about diabetes as if every long Covid patient suffers from this. You cited that 1 in 5 Covid patients in USA suffer from long Covid and then go on to link an article about diabetes in long Covid patients - clearly trying to correlate the two. Again, misleading IMO - which I'm entitled to by the way.

Yes here I am calling a spade a spade...

.... "and here we are" - The irony. Me talking about people who love nothing more than a fu**ing moan and trying to prove other people wrong then you post that complete with bullet points.

But I admit I am at fault. Its like going in to a room full of **** and calling them **** - no one is gonna say "you're right" so what can one expect.

I disagree. There’s definitely a big health risk there alright. I might have over indulged in some wine. Not to mention the big fry I’m going to have this morning. Do you realise the internal damage to your arteries, heart and liver and the mutations to your dna that these mini breaks alone can do? They really should come with a health warning 😉

What’s really shameful is the attempt to scaremonger and promote undue worry under the guise of science.

Your claim;

’Now research has shown that even mild cases of Covid 19 can trigger diabetes in people who otherwise are of low risk ie would be normal weight and otherwise healthy, by 40%’

is patently false according to the research you posted. It’s an overall risk increase and is weighted heavily according to severity in the acute phase of infection and inclusive of other risk factors including age, BMI, and comorbidities. Until there is research demonstrating that mild cases of Covid cause onset of diabetes in otherwise low risk people, over and above the expected in general population, then expect such claims to be questioned.

The guy who spent 2 years screaming for personal responsibility is only not going out infected because the government said he can't...... Beautiful.

There's no legal requirement to self-isolate.