Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

That would be racist. Round it up to at least 5 million

Few millions

The people running the country don't even have an answer to that question.

It doesn't look like this was is going to end anytime soon because Putin has his arms factories working around the clock and Zelenskyy seems to in it for the long fight as well.

“We are all in this together..” love it, like something the FG chattering classes would tell the peasants. Like during covid

That would be racist so no

According to reports its business as usual but with a rocket attack! What! Do you think the whole city shuts down and everyone goes into hiding? It's shocking stuff, but the city is still operating........ Much like Belfast did for many years, or London or madrid or any other city where attacks occur.

Could there be another potential answer ?

The longer the Ukrainian campaign goes on the more likely it is that Putin's scorched earth policy is being geared to providing Russia with an opportunity to repopulate Ukraine with Russian people.

It's looking more likely that ending the long running Luhansk/Donetsk situation has now morphed into cleanse the Ukraine and be done with it.

Could there be a dei-facto E.U. realization & acceptance of these goals,with perhaps even a tacit agreement for the E.U. to accept the transferees into it's member states,simply to allow Mr Putin to re-establish Mother Russia's dominance ?

It's becoming ever clearer that Mr Putin (and/or his strategic advisors) has substantially outmanouvered the E.U. and U.S.A. both physically and diplomatically,particularly when the Peoples Republic of China's position is taken into account. (Keep a close eye on Australia)

The E.U.response,not exclusively the refugee issue,now looks increasingly fragile,perhaps deliberately so,with much of the mass relocation of Ukrainian citlzens being not quite so humanitarian focused but perhaps more directed towards rebalancing the Labour market.

Time will,of course tell,however I find myself less trusting of the E.U. top-tier than even of Mr Putin,and that's saying something !!

Easy, deport everyone from Leitrim to make room for the new Irish.

Nope, not Quite, EU leadership slapped together a directive in a hurry, zero scrutiny of the document happened, I'd doubt they even checked for spelling errors.

Member country Leaders ran to Brussels, caught up in the excitement of virtue signalling, Voted to accept the Directive (actually makes it worse) congratulated each other and the chaos started almost instantaneously.

Denmark had the sense to opt out of this charade, heavens above you must despise the Danes, Boggles.

It's actually not a difficult document to Read, look at the wording and ambiguity contained within and seriously tell folks anyone with an ounce of intelligence would have signed off on it 🙄

I got thinking last night, 5 months in where exactly are we 🤔

Putin still earning Billions in oil and gas revenues (guess who his best customers are)

Parts of Ukraine in tatters.

Putin now has 20% of Ukraine which he'll keep.

European economy also in tatters

Ireland 🤔 well we're does one start, I'd crash the site listing the mess we're in.

And guess what Boggles, this is not ending any tiime soon, numbers coming in will increase, soon government will be asking if people have spares room in their garden sheds or attics , o and winter, not far away.

A shambles from the start which it didn't have to be, most sensible people would at least, stop and reflect but no, let the chaos continue, its now gone way beyond beggar's belief.

TO compare the same family (well, half family) one adult + 2 children (accommodation and meals provided):

Sweden: 1488 SEK + 625SEK x 2 (child benefit) = €255.92 monthly

Ireland: (€206 + €40 x 2) x 52/ 12 + 140 x 2 (child benefit) = €1,519.33 monthly which is 6 times of this in Sweden.

Irelands financial support is disproportionate.

i dont understand why refugees in hotels getting three meals a day are getting full benefits ? Our own unemployed get the same benefits but have to fend for themselves and feed themselves . Those is hotels getting their meals should be on a reduced rate . Those lucky enough to be housed in vacant homes are also getting their own food and paying bills . There is a huge inequality here which someone has to address