Charging Etiquette Question

Jesus...trolls our out for blood. No entire interaction was polite, and I of course realise that it was my mistake. But if they like the trolls here has listened they would have realised letting me go first would have been faster for them and me. If wanting everyone to win is being entitled then I suppose I am. Mearly looking for others informed opinions on the group consensus for this sort of thing.

I have done this trip many many times so no bad planning just bad luck cost me a little time nothing else. I would agree thought if you are on the road a lot doing a lot of long trips with short turnarounds a ev is not great with the current charging infrastructure. EVs are still a bit complex for some to get the hang of.

If I were in the car waiting and some chap came up and said he needed 7 minutes on the CCS when I needed an hour, or leave him take 25 minutes on the AC...I would have let him go and tapped on the window and my watch after 7 minutes if he was still there, because I am a straightforward kind of person and understand Ev's. Its a simple calculus, if I spend 25 minutes halving their charging rate (10.4 Kw into their car) it works out worse for them in time, than if I spend 7 minutes at full speed (5.8 kw to me) and they spend 18 minutes at full speed (15kw into their car). Assuming that they can draw full speed (and if they can not then get off the CCS plug). But again as somebody that fast charges only occasionaly I am looking for the word from the road warriors on here that do it all the time to see is there some unwritten line I was asking them to cross.

As I said this was the charger I was stopped at that was the the next available one as I was just over 30%, But that rule though is super stupid mind you and really doesn't let you get the best from your EV and your time, as the charging curve on my car allows me to pull 260kw out of an ionity if I get there hot at about 10% ....all the way up to 70%...so to get me home with safe margin its a single 10 minutes charge at ionity. for a Belfast and back trip thats not bad at all, faster than ICE refueling. Car also know if the ionity is working in real time so its super reliable. Sure I made a mistake and that is the EV equivalent of walking down the motorway with a petrol can in hand, we have all been there.

Indeed....good answer. I can see that now you type it. Logic probably was not foremost on their minds.

Sry wrong quote, new boards still confuses me on a phone. Fixed now

Numbers are fine. 50kw for 7 minutes pulls 5.8kw. 22kw (can only pulls 20kw as there is loss) to pull the same 5.8kw will take 18-19 minutes plus the ten they spent faffing around so the 25 minutes I said is true enough (dont know where you got 32 minutes from?)

Yep Seve OB you hopped right in and had your bias confirmed didn't ya 😁 Look I am really annoying in the motors forum cause I have EV's and love them and also have big engine petrol sports cars and love them equally, so that sort of trolling is ineffectual on me as I straddle both camps. Am I looking to justify my position?...yep suppose so, but would like others to give me reasons for and against. Several posts have helpfully done that after reading and understanding the puzzle presented.

Those older 1st gen "fast chargers" are horrid and useless, hence my desperation using it.

I visited a gridserve on a UK road trip a few weeks ago did over 2500km no issues at all (although the midlands towards wales is a big of a dead zone and had to use one 50kwh charger to get to Hollyhead ). Car could drive for about 3.5 hours on the motorway without charging and I will tell you that was the limit of my bladder and back.

The griderve station in Braintree was amazing. a dozen 350kwh chargers, a dozen 90 kw chargers and a few chademo 50 kw chargers. The owners without fail choose the correct charger for their car with nobody on a 350 what can only pull 50. The services had a lounge, showers, shops, nice food (not the usual garbage) and lots of covered space to stretch your legs. Entire roof was solar and they seem to have battery storage there too. This is the way of the future. Opportunities exist to sell stuff to a captive audience most petrol stations would kill for. It also located on the way to places not at the places if you know what I mean.

Except I didnt have a problem or failure just had to wait a bit longer., there are 50kwh ESB chargers all over the place so I was in no danger at any point of stranding myself, hell I have a 22kw onboard AC charger on the car so better prepared than most (also keep a 22kw Juice booster with every possible electrical outlet converter in the car so can take 22kwh off an industrial supply in any hotel)...so why I was at this particular charger really is not the question although people seem to want to teach me how to suck eggs here ( 3 years now driving EV's, currently own 2, many road trips in this country and others, and over 50k Km done in an EV, and 8k km done in the last 6 months). This could happen to anyone at any charger at any time. All going smoothly I could have landed at ionity and I only needed 10 minutes there so same issue could have arisen. This logic would have me bring one of my ICE cars if followed to its logical conclusion.

I know there is a thing when any question is asked on boards to look deep into the black heart of the OP and let them know in a virtue signalling way that it is their attitude and flaws are the root cause of all issues, but its a simple matter of do you let somebody needing a splash and dash top off in ahead of you if you are sitting down to a long charge. If not why not? and is it reasonable to ask to skip the queue?