Right to a house?

Wow judgemental much ?

We do what we're doing..hostels, hotels or direct provision. But that doesn't seem to be ever enough, everyone seemingly deserves a home of their own no matter what they've ever contributed to society.

And people wonder why they can't afford a home, and congratulate Michael D on words well said. He was speaking at a homeless charity opening of accommodation for homeless people. The irony, it is this very policy which is leading to the disaster!

If anyone in authority had any balls they would come out and say that anyone seeking housing who doesn't contribute should be thankful for what they're offered. People who complain about not being able to afford a house yet support housing provision for everyone have only themselves to blame.

I don't give a sh1t about homeless people, everyone makes their own lives, if you want to provide for them then don't complain about your own lot.

I particularly said people who don't contribute, we're all paying for those who don't, the provision of housing for them is directly affecting those that you mention. The underclass are now those who work minimum wage, there is no reward for them, is it any wonder there are vacancies everywhere?

By contribute I presume you mean take up paid employment.

Yet there are many in paid employment as you say that have no chance of paying the rent on a place of their own.

There is always a fluidity in the numbers needing help with accommodation but the latest available figures suggest that nationally there are about 10,000 homeless with about 3,000 of those being children.

If you break that down into family units, various categories of disability, long term illness etc. you would probably need about 5000 to 6000 houses to house them all.

Even if it was socially desirable to house them all in hostels and direct provision facilities the number of houses made permanently available to the working poor would not solve their problem.

Here's a fella that moved here and is unable to support himself and his family n requires a house. It is high time we stopped unskilled migration into the country - the Brits have pulled up the drawbridge n paddy is the only show in town now.

Someone posted stats on another thread and iirc there was 80-90k new pps numbers for immigrants in the last year excluding Ukrainians which were another 35k. Crazy numbers.

RTE.ie: Focus Ireland: Meath County Council letter to homeless family 'counterproductive'.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2022/0617/1305579-meath-homeless/

I'm not a fan of those "4EVA HoMe" people either.

That's forgetting that people in their forties now lived through the recession. Plenty of people were responsible in their twenties and got caught up in the mess that was the recession, only able to rent and now even doing that is excessively expensive.

A right to a house isn't something any reasonable person is arguing for, a housing market that isn't massively weighted in favor of rich speculators taking supply away from working people is a reasonable notion and not something to be dismissed out of hand.

We are living in a time where even renting an apartment is nigh on impossible never mind finding a home to buy within a reasonable distance of the of the one city everything in this country is centralised around without having won the lottery.

Saying people are getting what they deserve for traveling in their twenties is reductive in the extreme.

Think a distinction needs to be made between the people who are complaining about housing in that they expect to be housed but the lists, locations offered etc are not what they want. Then there are people (like myself) complaining about housing in that my partner and I who are tax payers, both have post graduate degrees and decent jobs and yet will likely never be able to afford a good house. Our parents generation would’ve been able to save for a few years and get a mortgage, properties within their reach that I would never even dream of being able to live in.

And that’s sad. We’ve done everything right in life that we could and have just been completely and utterly shafted.

The “I’m alright Jack, I’ve got mine, go **** yourself” attitude espoused by OP and many of the older generations would make you sick.

Yeah I fully agree with you.

Don’t see why I get to break my bollocks studying for years and working in my career and still can’t afford a house while they get offered one and turn their noses up at it. Doesn’t seem fair at all

If the rule for 3. 5 times salary was gone all we would see is prices going up to 400k plus , putting people in more debt, we saw this in the boom in 2000, anyone could borrow 4 to 5 times their wage , and the banks had to be rescued by a bailout , but of course people have short memory's, people went to the UK to declare bankruptcy and ended up not paying the full mortgage

Building materials are up by 40 per cent, there's supply chain issues, the problem is lack of supply. Changing lending rules will not give one more person a house. Many people would be happy to buy a 1 bed apartment not every one wants to live in a house

Reading this, it struck me that maybe the 08-14 recession has lead to a generation of “poor me” Irish people who graduated/entered the workforce during that period, they want to blame everyone else for them not having what they deserve, and expect others to help them get it. Where previous generations emigrated if they couldn’t afford to stay, the 30/40 somethings won’t even migrate to an area within Ireland where houses may be cheaper.

Won’t somebody please help these children of the recession, it wasn’t their fault.