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The Mega MK7 & MK8 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread - Part II

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Some sort of EU regulation where the wheels can't stick out further than the body of the car. All the 19" wheel models have them. I don't think the 18" wheels have them as they're a 225mm tyre and 19" are 235mm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Yep that’s it, EU regs. They’re only clipped on, so could be removed easily, I haven’t bothered.



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭bod71


    Hi, my son is looking to buy his first car, it has to be automatic and petrol and has a budget of 15k. He likes the golf and there’s plenty of mk 7s for sale. Would there be any issues with either the 1.2 or 1.4 dsg around 2013-2014. Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭User1998


    Both engines are quite reliable in the mk7. They are all Japanese imports but that shouldn’t be an issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,457 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    This is probably the quietest this thread has ever been 😕

    Anyway, I've a maintenance related question for any Mk 7 GTI/R owners with a DSG gearbox - when did you get your first DSG service carried out?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭blingrhino


    70KM on the R .

    Think it was €220 in 2018 if thats any help



  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭SimpleDimple


    Hi all!

    I’m starting to look at changing cars and am looking at an auto petrol golf, 2018 - 2020ish age. Is there anything to look out for on these?

    i love the look of the electronic dash on some of the newer models.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    The only issue I'm aware of is the faulty turbo on the 1 litre. It sounds rattly on startup and when driving if speeding up a bit you'd hear it a little. Now when I say you'd hear it, I mean aftera year of owning the car I noticed something just sounded a bit off.

    My girlfriend recently took mine off me, a 172 with just under 60k on it. Can't fault it, no issues since. Great car.




  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭SimpleDimple


    thanks for that! Did you get the rattley turbo fixed or is it something that you can live with?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    The turbo was replaced under warranty. I was driving around like that for several months no bother while trying to get it sorted but you'd be driving around with a major component that could fail at any time so not ideal.

    At a guess I'd say this effected 172/181 cars. It doesn't seem to be a widespread issue, two other people here had the same issue but there's only a handful of posts about it on other forums.



  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭SimpleDimple


    another question folks! is there much difference between the 1.0, 1.2, 1.4, and 1.5 petrol engines? Any ones worth avoiding or are they all pretty decent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭User1998


    Really depends on what you want from the car. 1.5 is the most powerful and most refined but generally the most expensive. 1.5 engine was only released a few years ago and took over from the 1.4

    1.0 would be the least powerful and least refined but its still decent for a 1 litre. I’d imagine it would be quite sluggish with a full car tho



  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭SimpleDimple


    Cheers! I was thinking that I’m coming from a 2L turbo diesel so the 1.0/1.2 might feel a bit underpowered. I’ll get out and drive a few anyway and see how they compare.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I've driven with 4 adults in the 1.0 many times no issues, even driving across Ireland with a full car of people and luggage going to a wedding. No hassle on the motorways or overtaking. Very competent daily driver. It won't leave you stuck trying to get to to speed on a slip road or anything. You also don't have to work to get power which is nice.

    It depends on what you're used to. It's a bit quicker than the 1.6 TDI for example and if you're used to driving smaller cars it will be quicker than pretty much all of them. However if you're used to driving stuff with a bit more power I'd say go with the 1.4/1.5 150hp.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭easyvision


    I think the fact we've gotten to the point where an Audi A3 is the same or cheaper than a Golf is a turning point! VW prices have just gone up again ive seen, pushing an R to over 71k starting price, and S3 is under 63. A base Golf now over 31 while a base A3 just over 32. GTI has gone from just over 46k last year to now over 51k... for a manual also, add 4k plus for auto. How much hiding of increases can you do on PCP or is it that they know people will just pay 6-700 a month for something premium, even with a decent deposit. Remember 5-6 years ago you could get an R for 46-47..... how do you jump up 40% in a few years nearly? Pushses me off VW, an Audi seems better value



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    45k will get you into a well specced ID.3/Cupra Born now, that's how much a Mk7.5 GTI PP DSG was just before the Mk8 came out. Now they're 55k.

    A decent spec 130hp Golf/Focus/308 are 40k, you'd have gotten a 300hp Leon Cupra for that 3-4 years ago.

    I know people used to say the likes of the R were much cheaper 6-7 years ago and stuff has gone up but the switch to the Mk8 and all the new VRT and shite really made prices go mental.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Someone reversed into me yesterday, is this ok to just go to a body shop or is there a risk of any underlying damage that should be checked? It was low speed on the driver side corner. Looks like the bumper just needs to be clipped back in and repaired. Headlight isn't damaged, radar shouldn't be effected as it's in the badge. I know with bumpers it can look fine on the surface and there could be underlying damage but in this case it's just the corner and was low speed, not head on or anything so likely not the case? Maybe a wheel alignment if it got knocked?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭User1998


    Straight to the bodyshop. They’ll be able to tell if there is underlying damage but thats highly unlikely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭easyvision


    So I ended up buying the grey GTD that was in Joe Duffys after being offered a lot more than I was ever expecting as a trade in. I sent an email with trade in valuation Sunday’s and drive home Tuesday. Few things I’m not a huge fan on the new golf including the controls on screen rather than buttons, lack of sunglasses holder, position of vents is too low I think etc. over all happy with the car and it feels quite a bit smoother to drive than the 2017. The suspension set up seems to absorb potholes a lot better

    Duno why they load sideways but anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,159 ✭✭✭bennyx_o


    What did you trade in?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭easyvision


    2017 GTD



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    That colour looks well in the flesh, wheels are lovely too. Enjoy!

    I'm finally seeing a handful of Mk8 GTIs and even an R recently after seeing next to none since they came out. Seems like people just aren't biting the bullet on them as new, which is a surprise as second hand prices aren't much better.

    VW's 222 prices are eye watering. €72,000 for an R now. If I'm not mistaken the GTI price is even closer to the Clubsport now, not a hard upgrade to make there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    The problem with new stock is worse than ever, so there aren’t that many new ones being sold. If you wanted to order one today the dealers would either quote you a mad lead time or tell you he can’t price one for you at all. Especially if you’ve a trade in.

    this also explains the high asking prices of lightly used ones and the strong trade in offers people like easyvision are getting.



  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭GalwayMan74


    For some reason my 08 mk5 gti is listed as a Pirelli when I go to insure it.

    Did they colour match the interior trim ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    The interior stitching / trim was yellow on them all afaik, regardless of exterior colour. There were only ever 4 exterior colours available afaik - yellow, black, silver and blue graphite.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    So this also broke the low tone horn now it sounds like a crappy French car and the headlight was knocked out of alignment. Feck sake...



  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭TheBetsy


    What did they offer if you don't mind me asking? Have the same car myself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭easyvision


    24k 102km on clock. DSG.

    Re note on new car....no audio in the car at all this morning, a quick reset of infotainment system didn't do anything.... have emailed garage! Googled seems to be a very common problem, don't know if they need a software update or what. Supposedly turning off and locking car for min 5 min can reset it, we shall see later as in work! Also some details I have noticed but possibly Im doing something wrong with key... doesnt seem to lock the car, only tapping the handle seems to lock the car, tried 4/5 times pressing lock. Holding down open key doesnt open all 4 windows like before.. Storage is much reduced in the car. No under seat trays, no small cubby beside steering wheel, the centre console is about half the size what it is on the MK7. No storage then really under radio, its all open. Drives well though and I love the exterior. I think the cost cutting inside doesnt match the price tag



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    The ID.3 has a lot of electrical issues and warning lights pop up but fortunately a lot of them go away after the car is turned off for a few minutes. Strange how such a large company can get it so wrong considering I've had pretty much no issues with software on the Mk7.5 aside from the reversing camera not showing up 2-3 times in just under 5 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    I had some minor occasional software niggles for a while early on but the latest software/firmware updates seem to have completely eliminated them. The latest software version is 1896. You can check what version you're on via the Infotainment system settings.

    Up until recently, if you wanted the system updated you had to leave it with the dealers for a day. Now its done OTA, so no need for dealer visits. If your car isn't on 1896 and the system isn't prompting you to install new updates, then you might need to get onto the dealers for them to do it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭easyvision


    I finally got the car connected to wifi after I had to go into the model and change security settings, no idea what I changed it to but anyway! I had a notification for software update on screen, hit delete all by mistake and seems theres no way to get it back, go back in again and says no update...... am I doing something wrong? Also downloaded we connect and connected with car, only option seems to be auxiliary ventilation, no settings for temp or heated seats etc which would be the only things it would really be handy for tbh! I dont even see in settings anywhere to bring up check for software updates etc. I think VW could do with someone from apple on how to make things user friendly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    There's a few things you need to do for this system to work and it sounds like you've at least 1-2 done already:

    • sign into the system with your WeConnect VW ID
    • Set your privacy settings to "Share my position". You'll know this has worked if you see a white "globe" icon on the top right of the screen. This indicates that you've a stable connection to VW servers (through the built-in e-Sim in the car) and you'll get updates etc when available. You don't need to be connecting to any other Wifi.
    • To check for updates manually, go into Settings -> System Information and there should be an option to check for software updates there. Check the current version, it'll be shown on screen and latest is version 1896.
    • The WeConnect app isn't that useful tbh. Yeah you can't do heated seats, but the only cars that you can do that on afaik are EV's. The auxiliary ventilation just turns on the blowers but its not full air-con. For air-con or heated seats to work without killing the battery, you'd need the engine running.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭easyvision


    Cheers, Ill try that, ye its a crap app tbh, it crashes randomly or doesn't connect etc. Makes sense so, guy in work has the plug in Skoda octavia and can do the heated seats and set temp etc!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    yeah, if its a plug in hybrid it probably works too. I don't think its possible with any ICE car. I had a similar feature on my previous car (BMW 420d) and the only thing you could do was the "auxiliary ventilation". The BMW app was generally a bit better though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭easyvision


    Booked in wed to check out the sound issue. software is up to date i found!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    To open/close the windows with the key you need to enable it in the vehicle settings. Its called "convenience opening" and you can set it for drivers window or all 4 windows. Just tried it myself, it works.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭easyvision


    Yeah I got it to work , cheers :) No other issue found so far, dropped car in and sound been working since



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭easyvision


    Sound went again bout 2 weeks ago at this stage maybe week and a half, dealer said they'd ring me.... nothing so far, again came back after i stopped car and turned off engine for 5 min... been working since. I don't get it!! Doesn't put much confidence in a dealer when buying a 50k car if they can't ring you back when there's an issue, probably wouldn't be rushing back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    If it happens again try resetting the system. Press and hold the power button until it reboots and you get the "GTD" logo on screen again.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Sorry lads, not driving the Golf anymore but still back with a boring standard Golf query...

    Golf in for the 5th service today and the rear pads and discs are at an advisory. Pads were recommended last year even though front ones haven't been changed yet at 60k. Apparently the rear are thinner than the front when new so the mechanic thought they were due to be replaced last year, guessing it's the same again today. Even if they're thinner I'd be very surprised if they were to be replaced first. Also saying discs are scorn but can't see a thing in that health check video due to the quality.

    As for the discs, seems a bit odd to need to change rear discs when still on the first set of pads, especially when the front are all good?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    Not really off no, the Mk7 is hard on rear brakes due to the traction control/ESP engaging the rear brakes when slip is detected.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I've gone to the dark side. As much as I would have loved a GTI the prices are just mental these days, at €65k+ it's just way out of budget and second hand stuff is also pricey, this car will be long term so the newer the better and this fit the bill.

    It will be interesting to see where EVs go, the power delivery is impressive and I don't notice the weight when driving around unless pushing it in the corners. The Cupra Born is everything the ID.3 should have been. If the boost model was 250hp full time rather than 231hp for 30 seconds it probably could be in the same short list for someone buying a hot hatch.

    Now someone go spend €80k on a Golf R to make this thread interesting again :)




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Well wear Davy, I really like those. Very funky looking thing. I agree, they’re nicer than the ID3.

    They’re not cheap either though are they?!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭ILikeBoats


    Love it Davey!



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    Low 40s to low 50s depending on battery & spec.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    They started at €38k and mine was €40k with upgraded wheels and seats although the price recently went up for new orders like everything else of course. When I ordered it was around a grand more expensive than a 130hp 1.5 DSG Golf so not too bad for the jump to full electric and a fair bit cheaper than the Golf eHybrid and GTE since the plug in hybrid grant was removed.

    I think it's still early days for EVs but at least now there's a few more nice options, the facelift ID.3 is coming next year with a GTX model so I'm curious to see that one!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭eddiem74


    Hi all,

    Was considering heading to Beshoffs to look at this Golf R which has been there a while: https://www.beshoffmotors.ie/vehicle?id=RZQv

    I am no expert on Golfs however always had an itch for one since I was younger, been driving BMWs mostly so would be looking to replace my wife's 2008 coupe with this, not trading in however, will sell hers separately.

    Would appreciate your thoughts on spec and price, & what would be a good deal?

    My mechanic friend said it will need tracker installed ASAP (which was not encouraging, are they stolen regularly?), and also insurance may have a loading applied.

    Appreciate any thoughts / perspectives. Thanks!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    He's wrong abouy the insurance anyway. They are actually very cheap to insure. I've never paid over €450 but I live in a rural area, maybe in Dublin they are harder insure. A lot of guys install Ghost immobilisers if you are worried about security.

    Price wise it's about average for the year from a dealer with a warranty. They have held their value very well especially since the MK8s are now so expensive to buy and UK is closed unless you pay VAT & duties.

    @DaveyDave love the Cupra born. You made a good choice there. Best of luck with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Nonsense comment about the insurance, as Hooch said.

    Trackers, etc, not something I’m convinced about. Focus on your home security and parking instead.

    If you live rurally with your own secured driveway or even better, a secure garage, then I wouldn’t worry. However if you live in an estate, car parked up very visibly outside your house etc, then I’d think carefully before purchasing it at all tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,121 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    This might be a little bit better value for money?

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2015-volkswagen-golf-r-dsg-automatic/32187549



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