Dole 'summer bonus' .. are they for real?

It seems that there are more and more people online who are more and more right wing, but I think it's just a tiny minority of people who spend way too much time on the internet looking for these opportunities to sh1t on people who they feel are beneath them.

In my life, I know several people who are/were long term unemployed

As others have already said, a lot of it is down to mental health and self confidence and not being able to pull themselves out a mess they find themselves in

I know a young person who never did very well in school, was quiet and had a few friends but lacked a lot of confidence, the kind of fellah who could do a job but couldn't get a job because he was just deeply afraid of change, he liked stability and was used to living at home and having the same routine. He never did well away from home, dropped out of college, tried to travel, lived abroad but even then he just stayed with people he knew and hardly left the house. Was on the dole for a number of years, finally met a guy who was able to get him a job in the place he was working and since then, he's been working like a trooper, doing really well and growing in confidence, but I know that if he ever has to leave that job, there's a good chance he could find himself back in that same place he was before.

Another guy I know was working in a factory, was made redundant a few years ago and took his redundancy and went to live with his elderly father who was living on his own in a rural isolated area, the plan was to do up the house and help care for his father, who then got sick and went into a nursing home and he spent all his money on repairs and refurbishing the old family home and now he's suffering the effects of isolation himself and has some mental health issues (which he doesn't recognise and won't seek help for (if help was even possible)

Another fellah was a carpenter and a stonemason but didn't have the official 'qualifications' and had been doing odd jobs and working on a family farm for years until there was a row with his brother (brother screwed him over for some work he did) and now they're not speaking. He's basically retired, has no real intention of getting a job and physically wouldn't be able to do any construction work full time anyway...

In other words life is complex, there are reasons why people end up on 'the dole' long term

Just because there are jobs available doesn't mean everyone is in a position to take them, and the state doesn't have the ability to work through the complex reasons why any one person may be long term unemployed.

65k long term unemployed out of a workforce of 2.5 million, that's about 2%

There are reasons for each of those people to be on the dole. Some are tragic, some are just temporary life circumstances that most people go through at some point and go on to become fully productive members of society. The percentage of these people who are 'life long dole scroungers' is way below 1% of the labour force, and of these people, would you hire them to do a job? If they're that lazy or manipulative even if they could physically work, if you can't trust them to do it carefully or honestly, then maybe it's just worth taking the hit and paying them their dole

yup, those with complex psychological issues generally gravitate towards maladaptive activities such as alcohol consumption!

...so a long term disability is fun now, yea?

i some how doubt its actually called a burger allowance, but extra welfare makes sense, as pup confirmed.....

my brightness key, how interesting!

Very insightful, I'm presuming your reasonably close to these dastardly folks given you seem to know all about their details, even payment types., lifestyle choices etc , I sense its causing you untold trauma.

I am curious though, your Defo these frauds are taking place , one wonders , which such an obviously sincere concern about the state being defrauded why you haven't reported this outrageous & scurrilous behaviour, there's a number of ways you can do this and anonymously, no one including these appalling desperados need know who reported them.

And I agree whole heartedly as a home owner also 😏

Well said and I wish you well re Jobs situation.

The Thanks you referred too are undoubtedly from the small cohort who specialise and thrive on nasty threads like this , nothing to be proud of 😏

And I suppose you think this is SW recipients fault, mother of God your arguments are becoming surreal 🙄

Did he say it was their fault? No he didn't. He's just pointing out the fact that raising the dole or giving a summer bonus is unfair to some working people who aren't that much better off than someone on the dole. those on the dole also get an extra 40 hours leisure time each week