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Boating chit chat thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    They were gaff-rigged originally and then converted to Bermudan.Sometime after WW2 I think. In the late 60's I crewed a couple of times on a bright yellow 24 known as the 'Banana Boat' (maybe she was correctly called Euphanzel'?). I don't remember much about their sailing capabilities except they had to be sailed hard, and recall they had runners which were done up by levers each side of the cockpit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,628 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Grant Dalton on his way to check out Cork Harbour for the America's Cup.

    And Jeddah, and Malaga.

    Last three standing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    It would be political suicide for any TD to support this. Spending 200million on a 'Yotting' facility & event that will be gone after a few weeks, If Coveney has any cop Ireland will walk. Saudi is unlikely, politically, so it looks like Spain if the event goes ahead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭POBox19


    Agree.

    I don't see those boats lasting very long at 40kts in the swell off Roches Point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    Interesting to see the events of the last week or so on some Russians. France, Italy, etc., are ‘seizing’ Russian superyachts. It’s a bit of a legal nightmare apparently, as proving ownership is almost impossible, with layers of shell companies. France has also seized a fully-laden car transporter en route to Russia. Several of the Caribbean ports are refusing fuel to the Russian-owned vessels, regardless of owners being on sanction list or not.

    In Germany, the ‘Dilbar’, owned by Usmanov is blocked in Hamburg. The Isle of Man has de-registered his planes & helicopters, which means they effectively are grounded as they no longer have authorisations to fly or land.

    One of Putin’s yachts (m.y. Graceful) left Blohm & Voss a couple of weeks ago without the refit being finished and hightailed it to Kaliningrad. Last week the hacker group 'Anonymous' got into its AIS and changed its call-sign to FCKPTN and fixed its position as ‘aground’ off Ukraine’s coast, with a departure date of April 1. It seems to be off AIS currently.

    Several European yards have stopped work on Russian owned vessels and several crews have been discharged by the managing agents, some reportedly without pay due,.

    France/Monaco prevented Quantum Blue belonging to Sergei Galitsky from sailing Thursday morning but she was released and is now in the Med., SE of Crete (maybe heading for Suez?). French authorities in La Ciotat have seized the Amor Vero owned by Igor Sechin, CEO of the state-owned Russian oil company Rosneft.

    In Mallorca, the Ukrainian chief engineer on superyacht Lady Anastasia opened the seacocks and partially sank her at her mooring. She is owned by Alex Mijeev, who among other things owns Rostec, the main supplier of helicopter gunships, jets and rockets to Russian forces. The engineer turned himself in, was released on bail and has said he is returning home to fight the Russians.

    In Barcelona the Galactica Super Nova, owned by Vagit Alekperov, key shareholder in Lukoil, a company already subject to US sanctions, set sail for Tivat in Montenegro, which is not in the EU. Her AIS is off for days. Superyacht Solaris, owned by Roman Abramovich remains moored in Barcelona, while the Aurora, which belongs to the construction magnate Andrey Molchanov, is still in dry dock there.

     



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    It will be costly to fill the RIB until this blows over. May have to take up the auld sailing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    Superyacht 'Quantum Blue' mentioned in #2904 above was moored in Port Said for the last several days. She has now cleared the Canal and is making her way down the Red Sea 'cruising' - i.e. no destination shown. Unlike many other yachts owned by oligarchs she still has her AIS 'lit' so can be tracked. Probably en route to that favorite haunt of the dodgy, the Seychelles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,628 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,071 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Glad to see sense prevail on the Americas Cup tbh



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,761 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Mick Tator




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Mick Tator





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,232 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Give yourself a pat on the back, there..... oh wait, you already did.

    Aren't you brilliant!



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 jameshickey87


    Hey could anybody help me here with my boat looking to find out what make and model my boat is

    Thanks

    James


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058240016/what-did-i-just-buy#latest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Panjandrums


    Have the prices of second hand boats and marine items come in price over the last few months?

    I think I've noticed a change, it must be due to inflation and fuel price?



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Everything has gone up even if you take into account covid,the war and inflation I will no longer buy in parts and gear from the UK as the customs is just outrageous and a nightmare to deal with. The end of seagull engines for me. 😞 and like alot of boats here I have a BMC . I'm OK in one way as I can fix my engine and boat myself but anyone else that is looking for someone to work on their boats will have a hard time finding them and if they do it will cost an arm and a leg I know lots of people having to wait 2 years to get a canopy repaired or fixed. We had many years where we never trained in apprentices in trade work so now the few that are around are able to charge what they want, I can't see us coming out of this anytime soon. I have stopped doing any work for people as the price I have to charge is miles away from what they were thinking some people have even said to me if I build them something that they could have got it alot cheaper in IKEA 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Panjandrums


    I actually meant to say down in price. I was thinking only ertain items like engines. With fuel the price it is I thought it was reasonable that people would get rid of boats with the thirsty engines, and struggle to sell them hence a price slight decrease when compared with what they were last Summer?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    It is a fright 😦 just after paying €12 customs for something that cost £25. It is worth having a look at Statesian sites now as they usually a bit cheaper and you'll be caught for customs anyway. Huge sums of money changing hands now for very little work being done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    No. You’re looking at this the wrong way.

    The rise in fuel prices is not really much in the overall context. For example, a 150hp diesel burns about 15 LPH. Say you run 100 hours in the season so 1500L– with a price increase of 30 cents that’s an extra €450 which is not much in the overall cost of running a boat of that size.

    I think second-hand boat prices actually will increase as people realise the enjoyment a boat can give and contrast the price with how expensive Irish hotels, holiday home rentals and ferry fares are here. There is a shortage of boats in the market and none are coming in from the UK. Look at the second-hand car market and what is happening to prices there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,444 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Is it worth charging up a battery or just replace it, mine was a little down after the winter I should have probably put it on a trickle charge, tested it and it still had enough volts to start the engine but not a full 12v, anyways I completely flattened it yesterday trying to start the boat but i'm putting that down to a fuel problem not the battery.

    What would you do, I need to either buy a battery or battery charger, might also invest in one of the portable booster packs just for emergencies.



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    No harm in charging it up again if you haven't got a charger maybe jump start the engine and leave it to charge up the battery. You can buy small solar panels that you can leave on a window and it will keep the battery topped up. Worth having a power pack and charger if you own a boat they won't go to waste 😀 If your is one of the older ones check it for water.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    To add to Fergal's comments, if the engine was turning over fast enough for you to think it might start,  probably the battery is salvageable. A charger’s output should be between 10 and 20% of the battery size e.g. if your battery is 100 amp hours the charger should output 10-20 amps. Trickle chargers can kill a battery and if you are serious about battery care you need to consider a ‘smart’ charger. A decent power pack (e.g. Noco brand) is probably more expensive than a replacement battery. If you are buying a battery go for an AGM.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,871 ✭✭✭Alkers


    You can't just replace standard 12v lead acid batteries with AGM all the time. AGM batteries require different charging voltages and will fail prematurely if not used with an alternator / battery charger specifically setup for AGM batteries. Most battery chargers will have a different function for AGM batteries for this reason although some can detect themselves



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,444 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Don't know if it's suitable for an AGM battery, it's an 88 mercruiser 4.3 if that makes a difference..., I picked up a ring 6a smart battery charger and maintainer this afternoon so going to stick it on that and see what happens, hopefully a few drops of petrol down the carb will fix my starting problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    At 6 amps I'd guess the charger is too small, you probably need one double that size. Without knowing the condition, charge state and size in amp hours of the battery it is impossible to give a straight answer. I'd guess that the battery is about 90ah so it's going to take at least a day to bring it back up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,444 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    It's 105ah, ampac battery, not marine specific, charging away now at 12.7 was flickering between 12.4 and 12.5 when I first plugged it in. I completely flattened it yesterday wouldn't even try to crank in the end. It's looking ok on the battery front I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,871 ✭✭✭Alkers


    Unlikely it will be for an AGM battery, depends how much use the boat gets Vs how often you have the battery on the charger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,444 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    It's only used on nice days, probably out once a week or so from here on in, it was fully charged at 14.6v when I checked it this morning so I plugged it out, still reading 13.4v there now, I'll check again when it's running and after a spin, just waiting on muffs to run it before going back to the water.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    It's about time for Fergal to invest in a real boat!

    https://yachts.apolloduck.ie/boat/sailing-yachts-classic-yacht-for-sale/697269



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    I look at that and all I see is sandpaper,bad back and bad knees 😀



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    You're doing well that you haven't those already! I love the idea of a wooden deck, grew up on tales of holystones, bears and swabbers!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,444 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Has anyone suggested a thread like they have in the Watches or Car forums, 'Today's bargain boat that i'm not buying' ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,071 ✭✭✭✭neris


    There's no such thing as a bargain boat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Also needs a "Today I did something to my boat" thread even though it will be just mainly fergal posting in it and putting everyone to shame



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Has anyone been to Inishkea? I am tempted to go over for a few days in the next month or so, do a bit of wild camping



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    No, but I once went ashore at Gola further up the coast. Similarly deserted, beautiful but eerie. There is a very interesting book on the Inishkeas written by Dornan. Gives the history of the place, system of farming (rundale). It's years since i read it, I recall the story of how the natives beat off some mainlanders with stones and oars - they tried to land/find succour there during the Famine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    I went to have a look at a house on Inishmeane just up the road from Gola. Didn't get it in the end, perhaps I should have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    I never wanted a house on an island. Imagine driving for hours having already spent hours loading up car with goods and kids and on arriving at destination unloading all, launching a boat, loading the boat, trying to start an engine that had been stored for an age and then landing and unloading all again to stay in a house that had been unoccupied by neither humans or little furry creatures (you hope) for an age? And then someone remembers that the cooler with the beer and the milk was left behind and the nearest shop on the mainland is 15 miles away and doesn't open until 10 tomorrow. No thanks!😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,628 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    There's a ferry service to Gola now, of some sort, I haven't used it myself but family have.

    I was there about 40 years ago, and have two abiding memories - nearly breaking my ankle in a feet-deep rabbit hole - and the houses that looked like the family had their tea, and just got up, put their coats on, and walked off the island - the furniture was still there, delph on the dresser, turf and ashes in the fireplace - it was properly spooky!

    I think a few have returned to have summer homes there now, and there's a little bothán shop as well.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    I did live on an island for a while and that didn't happen. If you leave the house unoccupied for a long time you will have problems and if you're trying to fit your "house on an island" life in with a busy Dublin working life it will be a disaster altogether

    If you're actually living there you'll get into the habit of being organised with your supplies fairly quickly and you'll make sure your boat will start



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    I too once lived on an island but it was connected by bridges and tunnels with the mainland!😀 Despite those links it was equally difficult to leave and enter at weekends.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,761 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Looks like I've lost the little bracket that mounts on the P bracket which holds the stationary blade in position for the rope cutter!!

    The threads in the holes look clean enough, so they must have just worked themselves loose under vibration.

    This was it previously (the benefits of always photographing as many bits as possible);


    Not sure where I'd find a replacement, as these scissor types don't seem so common anymore (at least in the few online chandlers I quickly checked).



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    This might do you. Marine Rope Cutters - Ambassador Rope Cutters

    https://www.donedeal.ie/boats-for-sale/marine-disc-rope-cutters-prop-protector-ya/12339638

    Also try "yacht agencies" in Wicklow .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,761 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Cheers Fergal,

    Found what I need through Yacht Agencies.

    Looks like my rope cutter is an Ambassador AM5, and the part I need is the Striker Plate;

    Back in my younger days when I'd served my time in a machine shop, I'd have been able to knock that part up in about 1-2 hours...

    Post edited by AndyBoBandy on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,761 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    and that's the part ordered from Yacht Agencies, will be in the post tomorrow.

    Excellent, Cheers Fergal.


    I'll need to root out that bottle of Loctite thread lock I have lying around somewhere and hope she stays on this time!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,071 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Brand new foiling race boat abandoned in April found drifting 100 miles off the Portuguese coast






  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,761 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,628 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Ah jeepers 😥

    I saw the video on fb, but didn't realise it was that boat - I saw her fully crewed in racing action in St Tropez a few years ago, and she was a magnificent sight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,071 ✭✭✭✭neris


    How do you explain that to the boss



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