Russia - threadbanned users in OP

The germans really are proving themselves to be a useless shower of fuckers.

It's good propaganda, promise all the stuff you know they can't/won't deliver. That causes good headlines and they outweight the bad ones when he backtracks.

We've had the Flakpanzer Gepard AA's promised..... oh but there's no ammo because that's supplied by Switzerland and they won't allow it to be exported.

Then we have Germany agreeing to send tanks to Greece so Greece can give BMP's to Ukraine.... oh but they won't be delivered until god know's when.

He's promising **** he know he can't or wont be able to deliver.

I know it's unfair to call out Germany or the German public, it solely rest's with SScholtZ.

Can anyone explain the logic of declaring publicAlly what weapons are being delivered to the Ukraine by the west……daily we hear Biden etc say this type of missile with x km range is in its way etc etc…..is this just not ‘poking the bear’……you then get the ratarded retorts from the fcuk-wit Russians…..statements laden with nuclear threats…….is it all just a load of hot air from both sides and in reality very little if any of the fancy weapons actually make their way to Ukraine front lines….??

Load of shìte. You can do a software update on even the most complex pieces of equipment in under 30mins. They arent even bothered to come up with a good excuse.

As a German I do take issue with that. The government may be a useless shower of fcuks, but can we please stop throwing around Nazi every two seconds. It's really lost all meaning by now. I don't throw out "drunken Paddies" remarks every second post.

Thats a good point. How can a country who relies on being a member of NATO for security openly demostrate that it has no capability to either defend itself or help a fellow NATO country in the event of an attack upon that allie. Apart from having all those US bases there must be serious questions being asked by other members about how solid this organisation actually is.

The French have weapons but will only send pittance whilst at the same time pandering to NATO's number one threat and Germany claims to have nothing bar some broken stuff down the back of the shed which no-one looked at in years. Do they expect everyone else to protect them if push came to shove despite showing no will or capability to do the same in return.

Ukraines proably aren't that accuarate either, it really looks like they're getting pummuled, Zelenskyy is in a no win situation and from the sounds of him he doesn't want to lose more people, what's stopping any negotions?

It has long been said that Russia has something on Trump.

Looks like the same may be true of someone (or ones) in the German government.

shelling from both sides starts forest fire

There was a good case the thread should have been renamed "USA" back in December of last year with all the wailing about how Russia was being provoked and cornered by NATO + Joe Biden trying to stir up a wag the dog conflict, and even if they did invade Ukraine well the US did it in Iraq back in 2003 and noone really punished them for it.

Maybe should be called "Germany" now reading the last couple of pages. A real whiff of the old/stale "2 WWs and 1 World Cup" off some of the silly posts about pro Russia "Nazis" in Germany (+ they haven't gone away you know!).