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Ms. Marvel - Disney+ (***Spoilers***)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Saw Graces video talking about the episodes from a business angle as they are not allowed do reviews yet.

    Says stretching does happen but it's more like she has Green Lantern like powers. That would make sense to why I saw stretching in the trailer but the powers don't appear to be stretching powers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,048 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Ms. Marvel will receive its UK premiere on Disney+ on Wednesday June 8th



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    Is that a different date to the rest of the world?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,048 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,600 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    A 5 minute special called "A Fan's Guide to Ms. Marvel" was just added to D+ today. Having watched it I think it's safe to say that casting Iman Vellani as Kamala Kahn might be the best debut casting of a young character since Evanna Lynch as Luna Lovegood. She knows the comic, she understands the character, now lets hope the writers gave her a good story.

    This too shall pass.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    A likeable opening episode with a very likeable lead for me anyway

    A small mid credit stinger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Yeah, she's got great energy. I've enjoyed any interviews I've seen her do too - she was a Marvel fanatic before she got the gig. Perfect casting!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,032 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I understand it might look cool, but all the background animations could be toned down a bit.

    Just a setup episode this week. I expect will get the experimenting and all next week. Hard to tell from this episode, but apart from what we saw in the mid credits scene, there doesn't seem to be a big bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,600 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I enjoyed that. If you ever saw "The Mitchells vs The Machines" on Netflix (by the same crew as Into the Spider-verse) this gives off a very similar vibe. Ever since Sherlock I've always enjoyed when directors get creative with text messaging portrayl. This isn't going to change the direction of Phase 4, but it's still looking like a lot of fun. I'll be back next week. 🙂

    This too shall pass.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,572 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I thought it was great. I thought it all worked well, it was pretty funny and it's a decent start.

    Though the force of Ant-Man's rolling head on flat ground and the other girl getting absolutely lamped out of it by Mjolnir was atrocious. Funny, but atrocious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,600 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    OK 2 things. 1. The Captain Marvel seal of approval.

    2. Ms Marvel is continuing the QR code easter egg hunt. There is a QR code above the ATM in the Circle K Q Bodega which links to a free online comic.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,600 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Wouldn't call her a "big bad" but the bully (if you can call her that, Kamala is getting off lightly compared to Eleven on Stranger Things) who Kamala saved at the Con looks to be an ongoing adversary.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,572 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'd disagree, I got the feeling she was more likely to become a friend/ally. I don't know enough of Ms.Marvel from the comics though to know who her usual enemies are or to have picked up on foreshadowing, so it's hard to know. But I'm glad there was no big "This is who the villain is" scene in this episode. It would have felt completely out of place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,032 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Yeah apart from the "watch it!" part at the start, she seemed like the popular girl who's not a total b!tch and wasn't treating Kamala like the others did. Of course we could see her in coming weeks being mean to Kamala while fangirling over Ms Marvel.

    I agree the big bad mightn't have fitted the episode but when mid credits scene started I thought that's what they were setting up. Of course that organisation could be the bad guys.



  • Posts: 133 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Watched some of it last night... Turned if off, never to be aired again in the house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭youngblood


    Bit of a tough watch for a first episode-Not holding much hope



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,521 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    Didn’t realise this dropped. This has zero appeal for me. Normally the MCU is enough to peak my interest, but this one is just lost on me. I’m curious to see how it lands with audiences.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Same, hadn't realised it was out, but also have interest either. As a 41 year old man I'm clearly not the target demographic by the looks of things, so I wish it well & hope it jams with those who it would be aimed at.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,600 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Well I'm 39, watched it and enjoyed it. As Terrence Dicks once wrote for Tom Baker on Doctor Who, "There's no point in being a grown-up if you can't be a bit childish sometimes". On paper the plot does sound like one of those Disney channel/ Nickelodeon shows with the canned laughter, Daydreaming in the office, totalling the driving testers car, sassy mom says no party, kids use funny master plan to sneak out which goes wrong, party gets ruined, kids get found out, school adversary gets humiliated, the usual. Wandavision made sure to hit all the usual tropes of the sitcoms it was emulating for the first month or so and then the story came together once D'Arcy came along.

    Like with Hawkeye, this pretty much delivered what was promised in the trailer.

    I didn't like how cut off Moonknight was from the rest of the MCU, do I want it cancelled? No. Will I watch the next season if it gets one? Absolutely.

    It is what it is. It's not like we're being denied a Daredevil or Jessica Jones season 4 in order for this to be made. Like Wandavision was for Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, this is a set up for The Marvels. So far this week between The Orville, Obi-Wan, this and Stranger Things. The only two shows that have impressed me are this and Stranger Things. This for its innovative visuals and Stranger Things episode 4 for a stonking performance.

    This too shall pass.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    That's fair enough if you liked it, and would broadly agree with Uncle Terrence's assessment, a man who knew well how to thread the needle. Just with Ms Marvel I can see it's not in my wheelhouse, but I also see some folks getting steamed about it (not necessarily here, mind) cos it's a MCU production not immediately configured to their tastes and preferences, and I don't get that attitude.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    We both enjoyed it here and it reminded us a little of Netflix's "Never Have I Ever" with super powers. I think it's a good think Marvel are experimenting a bit with the story lead and how it's played out (at least initially). Everything they do doesn't need to appeal to everyone and trying to get a different audience is, if nothing else, sound marketing strategy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,032 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    The comics aren't for everyone either and are a lot more lighthearted than a lot of the other comics. So I guess the tone is similar for this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I thought it was dreadful. I ended up skipping ahead and then eventually turning it off. Came across to me like a poor version of Stargirl. Probably doesn't help that I'm a few episodes into Luke Cage and enjoying it. This show doesn't seem my cup of tea, so I think I'll be giving it a miss, Marvel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,423 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    I thought it was cute. I mean good to see them doing something a bit different. It's obviously aimed at a different demographic than, say, Wandavision or Winter Soldier and that's fair enough. Well, I mean they still want those viewers but it's not angled at them.

    I did have to turn on the subtitles again as I found her dialogue SO hard to follow (Especially her podcast monologue at the start). She spoke SO fast and the bilingual didn't help. But again, not a problem. I am pushing 50. Her character is 16. lol.

    So it was cute and fun. I'll watch it to pass the time. Not the end of the world if I drop it. I'm not the target audience but I'm sure the target will enjoy it and good luck to them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,069 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    I enjoyed it, but I don;t like that her power comes from the braclet.

    If you give the braclet to anyone else, they now have the power and she is just a normal kid again. I don't like that set up for a super hero.

    Though it is, I suppose, similar to Iron Man (just a billionaire, playboy, philanthropist without the suit...) or Falcon/New Captain America. Still, don't like it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,600 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    As I remember it, "Inhumans" was an invention to get around Fox having "Mutant" rights. Want to use a mutant character that Fox aren't using in the MCU? Make them an Inhuman. Disney own Fox now so that problem is gone.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,069 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Not quite - Inhumans in terms of the comics date back to the 60s.

    Mutants are a result of Evolution, Inhumans are scientifically created (Terregan Mist altering the genetic code)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    The Inhumans have been part of Marvel since 1965. They just weren't ever hugely popular, and existed mostly as storylines for The Fantastic Four. Even their most 'breakout' characters like Medusa and Crystal were only mildly popular with both as second string FF members and Crystal when married to Quicksilver and in the Avengers.

    When the MCU took off Marvel really tried to make the Inhumans a big deal to rival mutants in the comics. That was when they had the Terrigan mists spread across the earth and empower people with dormant Inhuman genes. Which was definitely something of a retcon of Inhuman history. It was where Kamala Khan was introduced and became Ms Marvel. At the same time Marvel completely, ridiculously, retconned Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch's history. And tried to vastly curtail the X-Men and other mutant characters in the comics. The Agents of Shield tv show was used to introduce Inhumans to the MCU. The Inhumans tv show followed and flopped. Disney bought Fox, got the rights to the mutants and started working to quietly erase their attempts to make the Inhumans a mutant substitute.

    Kamala/Ms Marvel is the one real success of the endeavour but is obviously not representing Inhumans in the MCU. (At least for now.)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,461 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    Since the bracelet is a family heirloom, I wonder if the bracelet was passed down through the bloodline and would unlock powers. When her mother saw the bracelet, she took it off Kamala and told her son to put in the attic so maybe her family were known to have powers and she doesn't want the same for Kamala.

    Maybe the bracelet just unlocks a persons powers, kind of like in the comics, the Terrigen Mist would unlock an Inhuman's powers and is not the source of the powers.



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