Heavyweight Boxing

yourdeadwright · 02-06-2022 04:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119145098#Comment_119145098

I agree and he still rocked Usyk a couple of times but never followed up .,

I think the Wilder that fought Fury in the 3rd fight Ko's the rest of the heavy weight division,

Depends what that fight took out of him

walshb · 02-06-2022 04:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119149919#Comment_119149919

One could also argue that any HW that had Wilder on queer street like Fury did would not have taken 11 rds to finish the job.

Wilder was knackered after 3 rds and anytime he was caught he was all over the place. We said it before, Fury with either more power or better finishing ability/accuracy, would have had Wilder gone around round 5/6

yourdeadwright · 02-06-2022 04:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119150082#Comment_119150082

Time shall tell but i think Wilder Ko's the rest of them

Morrison J · 05-06-2022 11:42AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119142829#Comment_119142829

Ill be genuinely stunned if Joshua turns it around in the rematch tbh. Thought he actually boxed quite well in the first fight tbh given the challenge that was in front of him.

Recipe for disaster going gun-ho against Usyk though. He's not going to be able to pin him down and I reckon he'll unravel pretty quick once he realizes this before Usyk chins him.

Morrison J · 05-06-2022 11:51AM

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Don't see why Usyk can't do a similar job to what Ortiz did to Wilder but actually see out the job. He does literally everything better than him and won't tire.

Wilder beats any fighter that stands in front of him. Usyk with his movement would be a stylistic nightmare for him I reckon. Usyk has also fought his fair share of big punchers and only been down once from a borderline low blow from Majidov. He's clearly very durable.

I think Usyk would make Wilder look silly honestly. The only heavyweight that I think gives Usyk serious problems is Fury. That's a 50/50 fight for me.

AdrianG08 · 05-06-2022 12:56PM

I expect Usyk to be even better in the rematch. Completely prepared for AJ being more aggressive.

People talk like AJ can hit then switch and be aggressive, a stone cold killer approach. I think he's gun shy, he's afraid of being hit, so he will always fight with the handbrake on.

Expect AJ to fight with bravado for 2-3 rounds and to be taken out, he's actually very limited, Usyk is all wrong for him.

Agree with the posters on here, Usyk is a fantastic fighter but should be beatable by top heavyweight fighters

yourdeadwright · 05-06-2022 05:26PM

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You could be right but in my opinion Usyk like Ortiz will eventually get hit and i think itll be good night,

I dont disagree that Usyk is a better "boxer" but he always gets hit & thats an issue against Wilder

But ye of course u could be right we won't know unless they share a ring

walshb · 05-06-2022 06:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119160765#Comment_119160765

Not gung ho or recklessly aggressive. Spiteful and committed and smart. More physicality and committed aggression without being aggressive for the sake of it

AdrianG08 · 05-06-2022 08:56PM

I don't think he has the ring IQ to do this, physically gifted but doesn't have the smarts.

Inability to adapt during a fight depending on what he's facing is his biggest weakness. The really top guys will take a look at you for couple of rounds and adjust in what they need to do.

This is completely alien to AJ, who fights to a plan and is robotic about it, often looking to his corner for pointers more often than he should.

normanoffside · 07-06-2022 12:29PM

Pulev vs Chisora scheduled for 9th July.

I am not sure what the point of this fight is and I certainly hope it is not PPV.

walshb · 07-06-2022 02:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119168834#Comment_119168834

If this is PPV, someone deserves prison time!!!

normanoffside · 07-06-2022 04:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119169693#Comment_119169693

I agree but it wouldn't surprise me. Pretty much every HW fight is PPV nowadays. Nothing will ever beat Brook vs Fun time Franky though...

squinn2912 · 07-06-2022 07:21PM

That would do dreadfully on PPV not a chance. That’s not even a main event let alone a ppv fight. Did they not already fight?

walshb · 07-06-2022 07:23PM

They fought 6-7 years ago in a fight that many felt Del Boy won.

no way it’s PPV on its own merit. It will be standard.

blade1 · 07-06-2022 07:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119169693#Comment_119169693

Yeah the people that buy it.

walshb · 07-06-2022 07:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119170889#Comment_119170889

I’ll bow out now!

blade1 · 07-06-2022 07:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119170932#Comment_119170932

Very not like you.

BK5 · 07-06-2022 09:24PM

Is this the big heavyweight fight of the summer?

Jesus wept! Two never were's

squinn2912 · 08-06-2022 07:59AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119170884#Comment_119170884

I watched it at the time, Pulev won it by a distance I thought Chisora couldn’t get near him

Morrison J · 11-06-2022 05:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119162294#Comment_119162294

What does that physicality play out in the ring though? If it's putting his weight on him then I can't see that working as Usyk is a way better clinch fighter and we saw him push A.J around in the last fight.

Can analyse Joshua's tactics all day long but either way he's up against a far superior fighter. He just isn't going to win.

squinn2912 · 11-06-2022 11:47PM

Daniel Dubois on now. I think it’ll be a short one.

Joeseph Balls · 11-06-2022 11:53PM

This is comical 😂

squinn2912 · 12-06-2022 12:06AM

Mother of Mercy what a loads shite. About 20 people in the leaky arena. Dubois is thanking God and telling everyone he’s worked so hard for this moment. Laughable. Bryan was a flabby lardass who beat a flabby lardass. This is an insult to real title holders.

squinn2912 · 12-06-2022 12:12AM

Did Bryan take a dive there? That was a very theatrical attempt to get up and then capsize again and then when it hit ten he got up on steady legs. What a joke.

Joeseph Balls · 12-06-2022 12:23AM

He was caught lovely but that flop back onto the canvas and rush to get up then was very Hollywood. Maybe just didn't want to be there. I think he threw one punch in the first round.

squinn2912 · 12-06-2022 08:40AM

Champ my ass. I actually thought he looked quite poor and hittable last night. At only 24 though he could kick on well over the next 2-3 years. He mentioned Parker and Whyte. I’m not sure they’re great matches for him right now I think either would beat him.

Cyrus · 12-06-2022 08:45AM

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joe Joyce was a clear winner against him, now i think is probably better than he gets credit for but hard to see Dubois beating whyte or Parker at the moment .

squinn2912 · 12-06-2022 11:11AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119190832#Comment_119190832

Yea I agree. They keep on going back to him being ahead on 2 scorecards when he took the knee. For my money he only clearly won one round and a case could be made for 2 more max. Joyce had him in his pocket from the word go. Even that fool last night got through when he tried a bit. I think both Parker and Whyte give him awful trouble with their jabs. He needs to be aiming lower. Takam or Heliunas however you spell it. Spilka that kinda ilk. It’s a delicate line for him. He wants to be fighting lads who aren’t utter gimmes but aren’t that dangerous. Next 2 fights are very important for him. I think they’ll be unearthing Lartys with unbeaten records for him to heavy bag but that’s not really bringing him on. He could gain from sparring Fury he’d improve him no end.

Morrison J · 12-06-2022 12:44PM

Feels like a big gamble this paying a guy who's likely to be taking his third loss in five fights. Going to be shelling out millions paying Joshua to fight Chisora in a comeback fight in the 02.

https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1535943883430952961?t=1VH9Z2b4yGEb9kQ-7WMpkw&s=19

walshb · 12-06-2022 03:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119191503#Comment_119191503

AJ and Hearn can fook right off if AJ loses again vs Usyk

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