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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,121 ✭✭✭ normanoffside


    I'd be very surprised if Fury doesn't stop Whyte. Is Whyte even training?

    I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn up as a lump and take his £8m.



  • Registered Users Posts: 48,397 ✭✭✭✭ walshb




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭ squinn2912


    There’s something very strange about whyte here. You’d think he’d want to make this title shot he’s been so deserving of a huge spectacle win lose or draw. If he gets pumped in two rounds any future title holder or contender wont be overly mad about taking him on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,446 ✭✭✭✭ yourdeadwright


    Being poorly advised ,

    This fight was a huge chance for him to make his name household & especially in the states where Fury has a big fan base,

    It's s stupid form him, he has found it difficult to get fights for title because nobody wants to take the risk with so little reward on his name ,Now its even worse & then people will think he doesn't help to sell PPV ,

    If he loses here i don't see where he goes why would the like of Ruiz or anyone want to fight him ,



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  • Registered Users Posts: 544 ✭✭✭ AdrianG08


    I think it's a mental thing with Whyte, someone advising him that bypassing the media stuff will stop Fury from getting into his head etc..

    I'd say they think Fury derives huge bounce from the antics in the buildup, and they probably think leaving him to carry the media duties will weigh heavy on him/ not give him the outlet to bounce off an opponent.

    Huge gamble though as you guys said, very hard to argue for another shot if he loses this, promoters won't touch him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,121 ✭✭✭ normanoffside


    Apparently Usyk was down below 200lbs before he even started his training camp for AJ in June. Not often a fighter loses weight between fights. I really don't think he should be taking this fight to be honest. He is at a lot of disadvantages and it's not as if he will be gifted a rematch.



  • Registered Users Posts: 48,397 ✭✭✭✭ walshb


    This fight has two smells: One of a Whyte no show and one of a Whyte upset!!!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,379 ✭✭✭✭ Cyrus


    He will show and he will be beaten, that’s the smell !



  • Registered Users Posts: 544 ✭✭✭ AdrianG08


    Next press conference with Fury should be interesting given the developments this morning with the Kinahans.

    Not just rumours in the Sunday world this time, actual OFAC Sanctions now



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  • Registered Users Posts: 48,397 ✭✭✭✭ walshb


    Sure you'll get the whole "fake news" from the usual suspects. I have no tIme for any these boxers who have ties to MTK

    No doubt if the heat gets too much for Fury the owl mental health card will be whipped out!



  • Registered Users Posts: 544 ✭✭✭ AdrianG08


    The next press conference should be interesting.

    Just had a look at the 300 odd fighters MTK represent.

    Apart from 1 or 2 it's really a whose who of bums who are walking around as full time fighters. Having so many jobbing fighters on the payroll should have raised questions, but it looks like nobody cares enough about boxing to investigate.

    Hopefully it all comes out in the wash in time.

    I wonder was it cartel money at the root of Fury v Whyte too, is there a danger of it falling through I wonder? There won't be as much money in UK/Irish boxing anymore once MTK are blacklisted.



  • Registered Users Posts: 48,397 ✭✭✭✭ walshb


    Michael Conlan looking to remove his image off the MTK site!



  • Registered Users Posts: 800 ✭✭✭ Lion Killer


    "Conlan Promotions" in tatters



  • Registered Users Posts: 48,397 ✭✭✭✭ walshb


    Bob Arum’s hand forced now as well.



  • Registered Users Posts: 800 ✭✭✭ Lion Killer


    Oh yes. Bob doesn't want any grief with the American government. Just shows you how these suits think. Money is all that matters. Just totally ruthless outlook



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭ eeepaulo


    Fury open workout at the moment, he's got a fair bit of bounce around the middle, he can fight at any weight.


    Warren has a mask on and a gravely voice and cough, if he's over hugging whyte we know whats up.



  • Registered Users Posts: 800 ✭✭✭ Lion Killer


    Druggy Dill not doing the open workout. Big baby



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,078 ✭✭✭ ebbsy


    I think Fury will outclass him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,121 ✭✭✭ normanoffside


    He doesn’t look too bad. Somewhere between where he was for the 2nd Wilder fight and the 3rd. I expect him to come in around 275 lbs



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  • Registered Users Posts: 48,397 ✭✭✭✭ walshb


    Eddie saying AJ KOs Usyk inside 6 rounds….

    he know something we don’t?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭ squinn2912


    I saw odds 2/5 Usyk and 7/4 Joshua. I think that looks long. I’ve a feeling this time Usyk wont be as good and Joshua can’t be as bad and when things even out a bit the stronger, heavier guy has to have the advantage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 48,397 ✭✭✭✭ walshb


    Very difficult to call. Could play out a number ways.

    one thing I do expect: AJ to be far more physically aggressive. And whatever the outcome/result of this is what needs to be seen..

    Robert Garcia rumoured to be new AJ trainer.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭ squinn2912


    Yep. He will surely try to throw Usyk about and get him off balance, using that to get shots off, take a warning or two from the ref. Lots of holding. That will make him less hittable but at some point Usyk is bound to tag him too and how he copes with a clean hit will be interesting



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭ Morrison J


    Usyk seems to always get underrated on here for some reason. Best boxer on the planet imo will knock Joshua out in the rematch.



  • Registered Users Posts: 48,397 ✭✭✭✭ walshb


    This result no way a surprise. But any result here may not be a surprise. I re-watched fight 1. Usyk put in a serious graft, but still plenty close and competitive action throughout. And for me, AJ can surely change a bit more to make this return a more difficult challenge for Usyk. AJ was very tame in fight 1

    the real beauty here is that it truly is a make or break fight for AJ. Another defeat (and if it’s a KO loss) would blow the hype train into kingdom come



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,446 ✭✭✭✭ yourdeadwright


    I think he is overrated as a heavy weight ,

    Yes he is an absolute fantastic boxer but i still think a "top tier " heavy weight should still be stoppoing him ,

    I reckon Fury, Wilder stop him

    I'd love to see him v Ruiz actually,



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭ squinn2912


    Usyk is a joy to watch. That last fight was a clinic and it had everything including bravery.

    I think it was round 9 where he got bloodied around the eye and I thought Joshua was going to kick on and dominate the closing stages. The opposite happened and he completely gassed. Joshua won;t ever have the legs to play chess with Usyk for 12 rounds. He needs to get mean, aggressive and let his power tell.

    During the last fight the commentators were calling for him to jab the chest just to hit something. Good advice for me. Chest, arms, throw him around the ring and bully him. Don’t box, you wont win that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 48,397 ✭✭✭✭ walshb


    Whatever abut how this plays out, they need to start fooking fighting some a these lads.....joke the amount of inactivity from them

    Prime Tyson would have had 2-3 fights by the last time these tools fought.

    Even Canelo is a busy man...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 48,397 ✭✭✭✭ walshb


    You could make an argument that a proper clean Wilder on the money shot could stop anyone...even Fury was on his back for 9-10 seconds

    Barring this type result, could Wilder beat Usyk via points? I don't think he can.



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