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Galway GAA Discussion Thread #2

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    With Fla still injured and Patrick Kelly starting (he's a great baller aside) I'd imagine this looks like bulking up for an aerial battle in the middle third. Most of the rest picks itself. Plenty of legs on the bench with Paul Kelly, O' Laoi, Gallagher, Conneely on the bench.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Minor hurlers on TG4 YouTube channel for anyone not here enjoying the sunshine!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Good win... But came mighty close to blowing it...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Competitive game. Would like to watch it back. Felt some strange decisions. Laois fans in the stand felt they were very hard done by. Hard to tell. Offaly were favourites before a ball was thrown in in this minor championship probably the same after thos round Robin with Galway a close second. Munster seem a bit behind.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Get in there lads.. Btw would it kill gbfm to start their coverage of a connaught final maybe 15 mins before throw in



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,860 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Fitzmaurice as co commentator on the box……bang……offf……. Will stick to radio.

    I knew I heard a drone somewhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Stoppit Gleeson for heavens sake



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,293 ✭✭✭threeball


    Good performance. Only 2 or 3 with subdued performances. Most played very well.

    Letting Roscommon control the game in the final quarter like we did Mayo is a worry. Really should have driven the advantage home and put them away. I think it will catch them out against a real top team.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Our biggest weakness is our kick outs on both ends, we let teams off with easy short ones and zero movement so kick a lot long.

    This then feds into the late revival as we take even longer to kick it out which always means a long one and the opposition can start to build momentum if they get the breaks.

    We might be able to get away with it in the quarter and (potential) semi but it will probably cost us against Dublin/Kerry.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    When the subs came on the team lost their shape a bit, last goal put a gloss on the result for Ros, they never looked like winning in fairness, 2 goals made the difference... Wan on rte said molloy was one of her picks for motm,ah stop if it wasn't Walshe it should have been Finnerty imv.. Lost a few long kickouts need to work on that,don't be lettin the opposition jump on our backs in twos , watch for the breaks... Gleeson has work to do but its all fixable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,293 ✭✭✭threeball


    I'd agree, Walsh got MOTM because he's the big name but I could pick 4 or 5 who deserved it more. Finnerty, McDaid, McHugh were all ahead of him.

    Kickouts should improve when Flaherty returns but still depend too much on going long and there's no real plan round them either.

    Conceding 2-16 is a big score regardless of the opposition and considering we had plenty of numbers back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Avon8


    I thought Finnerty was motm coming out, and possibly comer for an epic 15 mins in the second, or John Daly for a supreme display. But then you actually look at Walsh's scores, 1-3 from play, none of them easy and the goal a thing of beauty, 2 45s stroked over like he was tapping a 14, and all the elusive running, how could he not get it. He's another like Conroy that has annoyed us with mistakes so much in the distant past that you forget how amazing the good stuff is when it comes.

    Great performance. A comprehensive win. Second half was better than the first imo. Plenty to improve on, like breaking ball at midfield and some Roscommon scores coming very easy. But while the backs in truth win us the mayo game, it was lovely to watch out forwards turn on the style. You'd swear listening to the build up that we had 2 forwards and 4 numpties. Delighted to see Finnerty turn it on, amongst others



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Great win.... You can see the confidence building in this team

    Management really learned from the croke park game... Congrats



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    First half Kickouts Galway 13/16 81%. Second half this dropped to 17/27 62%. Overall Roscommon won 91% of their kickouts. Such a poor platform to build a game plan around.

    Overall thought it was one of the best Galway performances in a long time. Full forward line scored 1-14 between Finnerty, Comer and Walsh. Finnerty starting to deliver the goods. Scoring was never an issue but workrate and ball retention massively improved.

    This win was built on hard running of McDaid, Kelly, Daly, Molloy and especially McHugh. Very few were of the whole team were below 8/10.

    Negatives. Comer hobbling off. Kickouts. Thought game management was poor enough. 5 subs lobbed on in quick succession in the last 10mins really disjointed the team and let Roscommon tack on some scores.

    Still. Great day. Great crowd. Great to be Kings of Connacht again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,501 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Had the best seats I've ever had at a match right in the middle of the stand.

    Galway were about 9 points the better team and shot the lights out for 60 minutes (10 mins with 14 men).

    Galway then sat back and allowed Roscommon all the time in the world on the ball, similar to the Mayo game. As you say any of the bigger teams will punish that game plan.

    Having said that Roscommon should have had a man less for the last 10 minutes but the ref decided against the black card for a deliberate pull down around the D, where as he gave one to Galway for a deliberate pull down around the half way line. Odd decision

    Galway appeared to be physically much stronger than Roscommon in a lot of duel's. Looked a few years ahead in S&C.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭elefant


    Galway strength and conditioning looks vastly superior to what it was last year when they blew up second half versus Mayo, albeit while also losing Walsh and Kelly.

    Credit to the management team, great to see that kind of development from one year to the next.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Avon8


    Most satisfactory part of the day is the stuffing of the ridiculous notion that Ros have better forwards than Galway. Walsh and Comer are better players than they've had since Dermot Earley. Finnerty and Heaney would walk onto their team. It's only 10 months since Tierney was motm against Roscommon and was the next big thing. It's hilarious how short term the media and much of the wider public are



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Found it interesting to see Joyce's reaction after the game.

    After the Mayo game there was some serious celebrations from the sideline, but not anywhere near as much yesterday when actually winning the title(hardly a banker game as well like Kerry had). Not sure was there something to it being Mayo, the first championship win or the fact the result yesterday was less in doubt than the Mayo game.

    Interesting observation all the same.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭cosatron


    the mayo match was a tense affair whereas we looked in control for most of the game yesterday and he was probably a bit disappointed to the 2 goals conceded as the end. Fair play to everyone involved and especially the players, they looked very fit and physically strong compared to last year so they obviously made a huge effort over the xmas.



  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Galway could make it the AI final in both codes this year, especially the way the football draw went. Unfortunately they are unlikely to win either of them if it does happen.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,501 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    From a strenght and conditioning point of view it appears they are up there with the best teams in the country.

    Just like the hurlers, the footballers are tall chaps as well.

    It's not going to be enough to win anything of course, but it's something that can't be improved on if it's not there



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    Deserved win for Galway yesterday a Connacht title with league promotion is progress on last year.

    Hard to believe that was Galways first Connacht title in Pearse Stadium since 2005 and hadn't beaten Roscommon in the final in a Galway venue since the 70s. Long overdue you could say?

    With that joy and happiness of winning Connacht yesterday I'm sure today Joyce and his management will know there is still plenty to work on before the All-Ireland series.

    Galway for the majority of yesterday match played with 13 or 14 back in defence and still conceded 2-16 and the Rossies could have scored more as they kick a number of wides and could easily have scored 3 or 4 goals.

    Midfield was won by Roscommon so i don't think McDaid is the option moving forward and Conroy probably had his worst match yesterday. His marker Harney was the best Roscommon player on show.

    2-19 scored and just 3 wides is impressive stuff in a Provincial final however in the All-Ireland quarter final Galway are unlikely to get the time and room to create and score as they got against a poorly set up Roscommon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Avon8


    The Mayo win was a big deal in the it beat a proper contender and saved his job. I'd say PJ couldnt give less of a Shiite about a Connacht title. For all his faults, he's consistently had the same arrogant annoyance plenty of ppl have had. Galway are third in the roll of honour. The third best county in Ireland despite being a dual county. I'd say it pisses him off no end that at one time he was the best player in Ireland and his team were the best around and Now we're irreverent. That needs to change. I completely think he has zero interest in Connacht titles. It's all Irelands or bust. I dont think we're we're anywhere near that yet but it's good to have a man in charge with ambition



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    McDaid played wing back. Molloy played in the half forward line and it was Tierney who played midfield with Conroy. Wouldn't pay too much attention to the numbers on their backs.

    Thought McDaid had a phenomenal game (made GAA team of the week) along with Molloy, Daly, Silke, Kelly, Heaney and especially McHugh our pound the ground runners were a mile ahead of Roscommon counterparts. They gave Galway scorers (Finnerty Comer and Walsh)the platform to get the scores to win the game (1-14 from a full forward line is some return)

    People can harp on about the 2-16 and while it was a bit disappointing to not win the game by the margin they deserved, it happens. At 60 mins score was 2-16 to 13 points. Galway emptied the bench with Niall Daly, O'Laoi, Gallagher, Paul Kelly and Cathal Sweeney coming on. They would be lucky to have 10 championship starts between the five of them. Galway got disjointed and Roscommon tacked on a few scores. But the game was never in doubt.

    As Gilberto pointed out it was refreshing to see Joyce be almost disappointed with how the game finished. Plenty to work on. No harm in that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    I highly doubt Joyce has that view on Connacht titles. It was 4 years since Galway won one and just the 3rd Galway won since 2008. it was also important that one was finally won at home. Connacht titles are stepping stone and winning yesterday meant Galway wouldn't be playing Kerry or Dublin in All Ireland quarter final or semi final if they get that far.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    I stand corrected on McDaid and you can change what i said to Tierney. On the evidence of yesterday is Galways midfield the answer going forward and looking/aiming to be competitive in the All-Ireland series?

    It's 20 man game nowadays regardless of the situation of the match. Like for like replacements should be brought on and not one's that makes the team weaker.

    I recall Kildare supporters saying simliar when they were to told to be wary of conceding 2-15 to Westmeath. It was brushed off as the game was never in doubt/already won and they would be more focused and competitive against Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Exactly, it's tangible success after a few years' disappointment, and in practical terms it means we stay the other side of the draw from Kerry/Dublin. (I'm sure if you were knocking about a few of the hostelries in Tuam today you'd see how much it means :-) )

    Strangely, though many I spoke to felt that Tierney didn't have a great match, I thought we lost our shape somewhat when he went off and it brought the Rossies back into it. He was a good outlet for a few of our counterattacks in the second half and was involved in a number of scores.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Personally I think it would be a failure if we don't make the final now.

    Beating two of the current qualifiers (which could end up being an average D2 team in the quarters) and then Derry/Qualifier to get to an AI final is no harder than the two games than we played already.

    I didn't see anything in Ulster yesterday to be more fearful of than Mayo/Roscommon.

    This is realistically, on paper, the easiest route you could expect from the quarters to the final.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Tierney is still very young and between U20.Senior with Galway, his club and college teams winning the All Irelands that amount of football in a short space of time has eventually caught up with him. Not sure is midfield his best or preferred position. An outlet on counterattacks can be done by playing him in the half forward line. At the time he was brought off Roscommon brought on Keith Doyle (U20 midfielder from last year) who looks like a good midfielder for the years ahead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭mjp


    Without being too hard on Tierney I feel he drifts out of matches too often and games can bypass him. Yesterday was one of those days and he had the lowest number of possessions of any outfield Galway player. Think joyce and backroom team need to nail down his role in the team as running counter attacking football doesn't suit his game and his game isn't as adaptable as lot of our other options in middle third. Definitely has the quality to be in the side but needs fit in somewhere



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Avon8


    Probably a good summation. I still have high hopes for him, he showed he was a lad with plenty of bottle last season in big moments in the limited game time we had. Just a case of finding his role and form again hopefully

    Thats 3 players now who were the main stars for NUIG that have gone off the boil slightly. In the case of Sean Kelly it's harsh to say he's off the boil but I say it from the base that he came into 2022 as Galways best player. Still playing well but hasn't fully dominated a big game in a while, depsite being excellent vs Leitrim. I think moreso in the case of the younger lads, Tierney and Paul Kelly. Both came into 2022 as two of Galways better lads and now one is struggling a bit and the other can't get gametime. You'd wonder did the run of FBD into a long Sigerson into the National League take a toll on those lads overall



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    Congrats to Galway senior footballers and Mgmt. Nice to get another Connaught title.

    It was probably needed at this point for PJ.

    Lets hope we can push on now and make it to an AI semi final at least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭MfMan


    It's rather beguiling to think this way, but I wouldn't get too far ahead of ourselves yet; injuries (to key men) in particular could derail the team. Am I correct in thinking that we can't meet Mayo or Roscommon again before the semi-final? Are the draws seeded to keep repeat pairings apart as long as possible? There would be a decent chance of this I'd imagine as, of all the provincial winners, Derry would look the least likely to win the quarter-final. (Mark O'Se rated them second behind Dublin at the moment - what is he on??!)



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Be carefull of a Kerryman hyping up or playing down certain teams, they may not be on the pitch but they too are playing their part in some way of getting the Kingdom to the holy grail that September day, a devious, cute, cunning lot with green an gold running in their veins 😉



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I know what you mean but you couldn't ask for more than say Limerick and Derry to make an AI final. Those are teams below the levels played so far.

    Only repeat of the Roscommon game. Mayo would be an option as it wasn't a final. That used to be the rule anyway. See no reason they've added previous championship opponents.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Shane Ryan and Donal O' Shea into the subs. Rest unchanged.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    What's the talk about a red about? To Galway or Kilkenny? Nobody here seems to know anything about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you


    A Galway lad with a nasty disgusting stamp on the arm of a Kilkenny player. The initial challenge resulted in a Yellow Card for a Galway player. The stamp wasn't spotted.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Fahy stood on the KK knee after Cooney chested him... You'd think he was going to try stand on the ball the way he moved his foot in but his hand/ball was nowhere near where he ended up landing it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,298 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Not looking like our day lads and ladies.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Pathetic scoring.

    9 points in the first half.

    6 in 30mins of the second.

    Keep fouling needlessly out the field so TJ can bang frees all day.

    No goals again and butcher chances.

    Nearly as many wides as scores.

    As bad as 2021 performances.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,293 ✭✭✭threeball


    Same failings since the start of the league. Long ball bullshít either from puckouts or clearances from defence. Hit and hope. Forwards getting no better than 50/50 chances at possession. Playing Kilkenny hurling against Kilkenny. It's idiotic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,298 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Best of 3?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Didn't even top 9 points in the second half... It's beyond bad.

    I'm sick of saying Conor Cooney shouldn't play. Not even counting his woeful two free misses but he must have hit 3 wife's from play and gave Concannon an awful pass for his goal miss.

    There was literally nothing there to be positive about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,293 ✭✭✭threeball


    Cooney was far from our worst performer. Fahy not up to it. Monaghan after weeks playing well in midfield got shifted to wing forward and it didn't suit him.

    It wasn't personnel that was our downfall, it was the tactics. It hasn't suited us, it doesn't suit us and it won't suit us. Lobbing ball in on top of whelan and concannon when their strengths are in pace and turn is just a silly misuse of players. Cathal Mannion, one of the most talented players in the country being used as a glorified sweeper, when he should be pulling the strings in the middle 3rd. It's not maximising your resources.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭Robson99


    One of the most dissapointing days in a long time

    Tactics were dreadful in the second half. Aimless ball down on top of a crowded half back line. Zero pace in the middle third and never broke the tackle. Surprised they took off Fahy before Concannon

    Playing Cathal Mannion way too deep. Need him from our 65 up. One of the best shooters in the country and we not able to get him into positions to score . And feck this craic of marking space and not the player. Criminal

    Excellent performances from Daithi, P Mannion & Whelan.

    Afraid Corks stickwork and pace will kill us



  • Registered Users Posts: 42 laymansterms


    Monaghan was named at midfield but mostly played in half forward line all year. Either way, he had his worst game in a long time.

    Yesterday was very disappointing but I wouldn't agree that it was as bad as last year. We just never got going, aimless ball, handling errors. We also have a habit of taking the ball needlessly into a challenge. Joseph Cooney was out on the wing where KK were delighted to see him. He was out of the game for large portions. Surely he should've been moved to midfield.

    As has been said, Whelan, Dáithí, p. Mannion all positives. No goal conceded either. I really hope this team stands up the next day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Ye have the better record against Cork in the championship since 2008. My fear is that Galway would have too much physical strength for Cork. Both teams can blow hot and cold, but Cork have to beat Antrim first! Henry Shefflin on the sideline adds an interesting angle to it as well.

    Great players don't necessarily make great managers though, and i think Galway made a mistake going outside the county for their last two managers. Ye replaced a native Galweigan all Ireland winning manager in Michael Donoghue with an outsider, and that outsider was then replaced by another outsider. That just doesn't make sense to me at all!

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭testtech05


    The ref in thurles is letting a lot of stuff that would have been pulled up last go but even apart from that the intensity and hits is a different level today.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Not at all surprised Leitrim beat this minor team.

    3 point first half and every way as bad as the hurlers or the U20 footballers earlier this year.

    Weird how Galway seem to give these performances at levels far above any other similar sized county.

    It's almost 50% of our games yield low scoring, high error and unstructured play.



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