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Lolek Ltd, Trading as 'The Iona Institute'

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,684 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    What language was that in the video???? Is that in Poland? Was that a Dublin GAA chequered flag flown or some medieval yoke?
    Oh God, I didn't watch the video. Life is too short, and, besides, I have to sort out the sock drawer or wash my shoelaces or something.

    According to the linked website, the summer camp was held at Glencomeragh House, which is between Carrick-on-Suir and Clonmel. What you took for Polish was probably the speech of some mountainy men who wandered down from the Nire Valley.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Can you imagine the disappointment that would be going to a chivalry camp and not getting to go jousting.
    Is that what it's called these days?

    Subtexts abound where young boys "between 12 and 18" are required to dress up in what appear, er, to be dresses and pull on another man's rope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    robindch wrote: »
    Is that what it's called these days?

    Subtexts abound where young boys "between 12 and 18" are required to dress up in what appear, er, to be dresses and pull on another man's rope.

    Some people have higher minds and such base thoughts would never occur to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    robindch wrote: »
    Is that what it's called these days?

    Subtexts abound where young boys "between 12 and 18" are required to dress up in what appear, er, to be dresses and pull on another man's rope.


    Link issues - my response can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9wdYy3tCm4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    I feel that as long as they're spending the money on "chivalry summer camps", our liberties are probably fairly safe.

    They blew a cool half million of dodgy Russian cash on the abortion referendum.

    SIPO really need to initiate prosecutions over this, it is an entirely illegal attempt to subvert our democracy.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,509 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    So, Dave is trending on Twitter due to his recent column and now it's gone international. Does anyone here read the ST?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    Considering dave is a huge proponent of free speech (really freedom of consequence) he has restricted who can comment on his tweet about this. The neverending double standards from this lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Look, at least he's finally come out and admitted it.

    I love how precisely he picked his language too so as to appear less racist, but inadvertently managed to be explicitly racist. "European Christians".

    Because if he had said just "Christians", then he might accidentally include the millions of African and Asian asylum seekers who are also Christian. If he had said just "Europeans", then that's a bit fluffy and he might accidentally have to include those weird Muslim countries like Turkey or Kazakhstan.

    No, "European Christians". Foolproof. No way you can be accused of racism then. Civilised, white people who believe in Jesus. You know, the "right" kind of people.

    Suddenly being called a homophobe seems like the least of Dave's problems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    He may as well have just come out and said "white". Not fooling anyone but I'm sure his intended audience will lap it up.

    Scrap the cap!



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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Yeah, both of them 😛

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Iona feeling butthurt once more

    A case that forced them to reveal their links and sources of funding would be most interesting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Hahahahaha

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    GPAHE report is here:

    https://globalextremism.org/ireland/#ii

    The Iona Institute is the more common name used for Lolek, Ltd., a private company established in 2006. Iona refers to the Iona Abbey, a Scottish church based on the isle of Iona, a center of Celtic mythology. David Quinn has led Iona since its founding. He is a former editor of the traditionalist Irish Catholic weekly newspaper and former religious affairs correspondent for the conservative Irish Independent daily newspaper. Quinn has written extensively against “aggressive secularism,” claiming that Christian influence on the state is seen as “illegitimate and somehow undemocratic” while at the same time feminists and socialists don’t “have to operate under similar handicaps.”


    The institute is deeply embedded in the anti-LGBTQ+ movement in Europe and is adamantly against same-sex marriage and civil unions. Iona’s representatives have appeared at Agenda Europe summits, a group which has argued that Islam is an inherently violent religion, that feminism is in fact Marxism, and that declining birth rates are threatening Europe, alongside a number of well-known anti-LGBTQ+ and anti-abortion rights campaigners and groups. In 2014, at the Munich Agenda Europe summit, Quinn moderated a discussion on the topic of marriage and “how do we need to defend it in public.” Other speakers came from well-known anti-LGBTQI+ groups, including Brian Brown, who heads the US-based World Congress of Families and is a board member of the similarly anti-LGBTQ+ CitizenGo. Another speaker was Dr. Željka Markić, leader of the Croatian anti-LGBTQ+ and conservative group U ime obitelji. The 2015 Agenda Europe event was held in Dublin, and Quinn participated, though no information is available on his activities. Iona has criticized pro-LGBTQ+ teaching in schools and pushed discriminatory ideas under the guise of religious freedom, notions originally constructed by American social conservative groups such as the Alliance Defending Freedom, which it praises on its website. They are generally skeptical of hate crime laws. Iona argues crime is rising, family breakdown increasing, and other social problems are caused by fewer opposite-sex marriages and a fall in organized religion. Its principals have also questioned climate change. In 2020, Twitter banned proposed ads by Iona about its work. Facebook had done the same earlier for content related to abortion.


    In 2021, the European Parliamentary Forum for Sexual and Reproductive Rights published a report that claimed that Iona had received substantial funding from Russia to pursue an anti-gender/anti-trans rights agenda. The Fondazione Novae Terrae was identified as the immediate donor to the Iona Institute, after it had in turn benefited from €2.39 million from a Russian-Azerbaijani “laundromat” designed to channel funds to like-minded campaign groups. Iona patrons include the psychiatrist Patricia Casey, columnist Breda O’Brien, Roman Catholic priest and theologian Vincent Twomey, and Anglican bishop the Rt. Rev. Ken Clarke.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    SIPO really need to crack down on this lot. They are a political lobby group receiving funding from highly dubious foreign sources.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭AllForIt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    No. Duh.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    edit: never mind, saw the report Robindh linked to.



  • Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    Hermann Kelly, on his Twitter account, making up quotes from Mikhail Gorbachev.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    This crowd again ....

    Agree with other posters that they are funded by dubious foreign sources and take advantage of our charity status ... despite they being a dangerous far right political advocacy and no charity!! They are very much linked to crank political parties such as ACI, Freedom Party, Identity Ireland, National Party and to non--Irish cranks such as the US Republican Party's far right wings and various European crank parties.

    Like its foreign cousins this group claims to be pro life and is anti abortion. It tends to be anti-non Christians, pro war, anti Iran, anti establishment, anti LGBTQ, anti mask/other Covid measures, etc. It tends to base its views on unfounded conspiracies they pass as fact. It is associated with ex journos with a chip on their shoulder such as John Waters, Gemma O'Doherty and David Quinn.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Young Mr Quinn back in the news again, this time for having settled victoriously yet another defamation case. Any idea how many he has won at this point? One could be forgiven for thinking that posting troll-tweets, then threatening legal action against people who respond angrily, could be a profitable activity.

    This one involves Karen Sugrue, a psychotherapist and founder of Together for Safety (a campaign which calls for safe access zones around health care facilities), who, in May of last year, (over)reacted to one of Mr Quinn's troll-tweets, then deleted her comment some days later, apologized and appears to have spent much of the last year attempting to settle with Mr Quinn.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2023/05/16/david-quinn-settles-with-campaigner-over-highly-defamatory-tweet/

    Despite Mr Quinn's claim that he didn't wish to silence Ms Sugrue, Mr Quinn demanded that Ms Sugrue sign an NDA, which she refused to do. Ms Sugrue published her side of the story here, earlier this morning:

    https://twitter.com/KarSugrue/status/1658376685727674368



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn



    Don't suppose anyone knows what the (undoubtedly groundless undeserved) remark was?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I don't know but if I did I wouldn't risk getting threatened by Quinn!

    No doubt he'll soon be back to telling us in his weekly newspaper column how silenced he is.

    Irony alert:


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    I was never once abusive to him and he banned me months back, he doesn't take somebody pointing out his double standards well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Rather nasty little article last Saturday from BO'B in the IT having a swipe at Simon Coveney:

    Usual disingenuous nonsense in there about how the number of abortions used to be X, but now it's Y.

    Except when there was no, or almost no, legal abortion in Ireland we had no idea at all what the true number was. Many who went to the UK did not give an Irish address, and in more recent years many others imported pills over the internet.

    Now there was an increase in legal abortions in Ireland between 2022 and 2023 alright - but can you think of anything that was still ongoing in 2022 which impeded access to a very time-bound and hard to access (in many parts of the country) type of healthcare..?

    And of course we all know that Breda and her fellow Ionanites remain resolutely opposed to effective sex education, contraceptive access and the morning-after pill in particular.

    Disappointing that the IT see fit to print such drivel.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The IT published a good letter in riposte from Peter Boylan. I'll post it on the main abortion thread as I think it better belongs there.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122391179/#Comment_122391179

    Scrap the cap!



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