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Lolek Ltd, Trading as 'The Iona Institute'

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Don't you know you can pray the gay away? #ionaknowsbest

    I have often prayed that the gay irritating me in the gay bar goes away but they never ever do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    I've been waiting a year for two gay men to take my kids. When should I expect to be able to offload them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lurkio


    lazygal wrote: »
    I've been waiting a year for two gay men to take my kids. When should I expect to be able to offload them?

    Well more gays are coming out being created since the marriage referendum to combat the backlog but it still may be some time, according to Liberal Agenda HQ anyway.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    lazygal wrote: »
    What are the many good things Iona does?

    They take care of everything for you...making all the decisions for you.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lurkio


    Cabaal wrote: »
    They take care of everything for you...making all the decisions for you.

    Freed from the burden of choice.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/CmMIoGvXIAAO6Ew.jpg

    "Nobody likes what we do, but we still need your money. Look... my pockets are completely empty " :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Funny how Ray D'Arcy not liking him is given as a reason to donate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,466 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    recedite wrote: »
    CmMIoGvXIAAO6Ew.jpg

    I believe in the place of religion all right, and keeping it firmly within there ;)

    Scrap the cap!



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭2RockMountain


    CmMIoGvXIAAO6Ew.jpg
    Cheque or postal order in pounds or euro

    I guess they know their market then - no Paypal or bitcoin for Iona supporters. But if they are accepting foreign currency donations, shouldn't they be make sure that these come from Irish citizens, to comply with SIPO rules?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Funny how Ray D'Arcy not liking him is given as a reason to donate.

    I hope he claims a fee. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    This post has been deleted.
    Receipts are embossed on individual plaques made of 18 carat gold, which you will receive in the afterlife.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,983 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    their company returns are available, the daily mail had an article on how much they spent but i forgot to save it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Funny how Ray D'Arcy not liking him is given as a reason to donate.

    Because Darcy is an arrogant pr1ck, cr*p broadcaster and so biased in his views. There is a few reasons for starters.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Giacomo McGubbin


    Actually I'd be tempted to donate if the likes of Ray D'arcy doesn't like em.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    If I send them a 1c cheque who ends up paying the most, me or them :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,466 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    If you post it, you. If you drop it into their letterbox when you're passing, them :)

    Scrap the cap!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    David Quinn ponders the possibility of a United Ireland. And time travel.
    On the one hand, an influx of socially conservative TDs into the Dail.
    On the other hand, they don't like Roman Catholics.
    Hmmm....


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Desmond Connell is one of those names I'll forever associate with the awfulness reported on (and the response) in the last decade.
    How can we believe, without corroboration, anything that members of the Irish Catholic Hierarchy say in cases where it is in their interest to mislead us? That is surely the central question that arises from the Cloyne Report, especially when seen alongside the previous revelation that Archbishop Desmond Connell of Dublin was happy to deliberately mislead people by a process that he described as ‘mental reservation’.
    As Michael points out, Connell introduced the nation to the idea of "mental reservation" - a technique whereby catholics allow themselves to lie with a clean conscience. That phrase may be his lasting contribution to the country. He died last night, having - like so many of his confreres - successfully avoided prosecution for his involvement in, or covering up for, child abuse in Ireland.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0221/854179-cardinal-desmond-connell-died/


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Two fun articles here:

    1. Breda O'Brien, closely linked with Lolek Limited, uses the Irish Times to document her significant worry that foreign funding from named individuals might "buy undemocratic influence":

    http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/breda-o-brien-foreign-funding-buys-undemocratic-influence-1.3056989

    2. Lolek Limited files its accounts with Companies Office which indicate that it has cash reserves of over EUR300k and received donations totalling EUR273,000 last year. The source of these donations is not specified either in the filing or in any other public place.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/iona-institute-company-got-275-000-in-donations-last-year-1.3058193


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    robindch wrote: »
    Two fun articles here:

    1. Breda O'Brien, closely linked with Lolek Limited, uses the Irish Times to document her significant worry that foreign funding from named individuals might "buy undemocratic influence":

    http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/breda-o-brien-foreign-funding-buys-undemocratic-influence-1.3056989

    2. Lolek Limited files its accounts with Companies Office which indicate that it has cash reserves of over EUR300k and received donations totalling EUR273,000 last year. The source of these donations is not specified either in the filing or in any other public place.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/iona-institute-company-got-275-000-in-donations-last-year-1.3058193

    Ok. I'll put my hand up. I made several €0.01 donations last year. Not sure about the rest of it though...

    MrP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,676 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    This post has been deleted.
    "Director" has a well-established legal meaning. "Patron" does not.

    At a wild guess, the "patrons" listed on Iona's website are all people who support Iona, either financially (e.g. Jimmy Sheehan) or by writing or speaking on behalf of Iona (Breda O'Brien) or by networking with other church groups (Ken Clarke) or by doing more than one of these things (Vincent Twomey). Odds are they are not paid for what they do, which is why they get called "patrons".

    David Quinn is described as "Director" of the Institute on the website, but from the Irish Times isn't listed as a company director of Lolek. My guess is that he's a director in the sense of general manager, that he's employed (and paid) for that purpose, that his appointment was made by the real directors and that he reports to them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    David Quinn is described as "Director" of the Institute on the website, but from the Irish Times isn't listed as a company director of Lolek. My guess is that he's a director in the sense of general manager, that he's employed (and paid) for that purpose, that his appointment was made by the real directors and that he reports to them.
    If you click on the link at the bottom of the page as already linked to, it takes you to another page showing the real directors.
    But I can't see any link there to take you to the page showing the real patrons, ie those who stump up the money ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/iona-spent-500000-during-year-of-repeal-referendum-38246015.html

    Lolek Ltd spent half a million euro to campaign against health care last year.
    In a shocking turn of events, David Quinn had nothing to say about this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,466 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Any chance of some transparency about where all of this money is coming from??

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Any chance of some transparency about where all of this money is coming from??

    bout the same odds as me being "Born Again" :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,466 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    There's no point in having SIPO if this so-called charity can blow a half million from unknown sources, possibly foreign, to try to influence a vote.

    Didn't recall ever seeing or hearing about posters from Iona themselves - so were they bankrolling Save 8th or the other lot?

    All very murky and not at all good for our politics.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,505 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    If they were obliged to be more transparent you can be sure they'd play the persecution card fairly sharp ish.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    More legal action from the good folk at Lolek Limited:

    Iona Institute academic seeks to sue woman for defamation over tweets
    Dr Angelo Bottone says posts wrongly accuse him of aiding man convicted of murdering abortion doctor


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/iona-institute-academic-seeks-to-sue-woman-for-defamation-over-tweets-1.4035214

    <snip> - do not quote entire articles, a link is sufficient</snip>
    Post edited by Boards.ie: Niamh on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,466 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    NUI graduates have excelled themselves again :rolleyes:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/seanad-elections-michael-mcdowell-re-elected-after-r%C3%B3n%C3%A1n-mullen-tops-nui-poll-1.4217616
    Mr Mullen, a long-time anti-abortion campaigner, is the first NUI Senator in recent memory to win a seat on the first count.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail



    It is at times like this that i am especially grateful I chose Trinity.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    NUI graduates have excelled themselves again :rolleyes:
    Great we are a diverse society
    The remit of democracy might well be diversified by electing the pompous, the fatuous and the intolerant but I'm not sure it's improved by doing so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,352 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    I can vote for both the NUI and Trinity panels. At least according to the literature and ballots I was getting through the door. I only voted against the Mullins. I presume I ‘should’ only vote for one, but the question has only occurred to me now. Would it have been legal to vote in both? Morally, I’d be a bit iffy, but legally? Have I two votes?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,676 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    endacl wrote: »
    I can vote for both the NUI and Trinity panels. At least according to the literature and ballots I was getting through the door. I only voted against the Mullins. I presume I ‘should’ only vote for one, but the question has only occurred to me now. Would it have been legal to vote in both? Morally, I’d be a bit iffy, but legally? Have I two votes?
    Yes, you do, if you're a graduate of both universities, you brainy chap, you! And if you were also a county councillor you would have several more votes - one in each of the various vocational panels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    robindch wrote: »
    The remit of democracy might well be diversified by electing the pompous, the fatuous and the intolerant but I'm not sure it's improved by doing so.

    Suppose you could be right, I often find the people who profess to be the most tolerant are anything but.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Suppose you could be right, I often find the people who profess to be the most tolerant are anything but.
    You'll have to point out who's lecturing people on how tolerant they are - since I can't immediately think of too many people. Or at least, ones who should be taken seriously anyway.

    But your general point is correct - people who lecture the world on the excellence of their own qualities usually lack those same qualities most abundantly - the prerogative of the malignant narcissist. One needs to listen no further than the RCC talking about "love", or the current occupant of the White House talking about just about anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Suppose you could be right, I often find the people who profess to be the most tolerant are anything but.

    perhaps you should familiarise yourself with this
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,466 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The point isn't that this goon got elected. It's that he topped the poll while being in all probability highly unrepresentative of the views of NUI graduates as a whole. So the majority don't bother their hole voting, leaving the field open for the ex-Maynooth priests to swing the vote... There was a campaign to get NUI graduates to register and vote, it didn't work. Fúck 'em. Trinity have always elected high quality candidates, the NUI panel has always had its share of toothless FF types...

    Scrap the cap!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    The point isn't that this goon got elected. It's that he topped the poll while being in all probability highly unrepresentative of the views of NUI graduates as a whole. So the majority don't bother their hole voting, leaving the field open for the ex-Maynooth priests to swing the vote... There was a campaign to get NUI graduates to register and vote, it didn't work. Fúck 'em. Trinity have always elected high quality candidates, the NUI panel has always had its share of toothless FF types...

    I never got my ballot paper. :mad:
    Shed load of vote for me bumf arrived so I am definitely on the register.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,466 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    That's pretty bad. It's a registered letter. I suppose that €5k I sent for your birthday never arrived either! ;)

    Scrap the cap!



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Out of the blue, Bishop Quinn suddenly disagrees with somebody getting a job because of their sex:

    https://twitter.com/DavQuinn/status/1301086344920403969


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    robindch wrote: »
    Out of the blue, Bishop Quinn suddenly disagrees with somebody getting a job because of their sex:

    https://twitter.com/DavQuinn/status/1301086344920403969

    Not in a least bit out of character for him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,466 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Of course it's been pointed out that the RCC is a firm believer in gender quotas... wouldn't be like not-so-super-Quinn to be an aul' hypocrite, now, would it?

    Scrap the cap!



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    In reports which should surprise nobody, it seems that cash from hardline conservative international billionaires has been funnelled, via Russian and Azerbaijan, to a range of hardline "catholic" and/or anti-lgbt/trans campaigning organizations, including the "Iona Institute".

    The twitter link contains links to a number of reports, including 'Chivalry Summer Camps' in Ireland (which I don't recall appearing here before) and which are advertized as being for 'boys between 12 and 18'.

    https://twitter.com/soundmigration/status/1409564791019028485
    https://www.epfweb.org/sites/default/files/2021-01/EPF%20TFP_EN_Oct30_0.pdf

    557095.jpg

    https://www.isfcc.org/summer-camps



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,064 ✭✭✭Christy42


    robindch wrote: »
    In reports which should surprise nobody, it seems that cash from hardline conservative international billionaires has been funnelled, via Russian and Azerbaijan, to a range of hardline "catholic" and/or anti-lgbt/trans campaigning organizations, including the "Iona Institute".

    The twitter link contains links to a number of reports, including 'Chivalry Summer Camps' in Ireland (which I don't recall appearing here before) and which are advertized as being for 'boys between 12 and 18'.

    https://twitter.com/soundmigration/status/1409564791019028485
    https://www.epfweb.org/sites/default/files/2021-01/EPF%20TFP_EN_Oct30_0.pdf

    557095.jpg

    https://www.isfcc.org/summer-camps


    Can you imagine the disappointment that would be going to a chivalry camp and not getting to go jousting.

    Weren't they questionable about their funding during referendums as well?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,676 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    I feel that as long as they're spending the money on "chivalry summer camps", our liberties are probably fairly safe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    I feel that as long as they're spending the money on "chivalry summer camps", our liberties are probably fairly safe.

    they spent their money campaigning against every referendum in recent memory, spreading any number of lies in the process. I'm not sure I share your blasé attitude towards them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    What language was that in the video???? Is that in Poland? Was that a Dublin GAA chequered flag flown or some medieval yoke?


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