Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Not sure what channels were banned 3 weeks before war.

The ones I am talking about were closed 1 year before war when nobody was even talking wars.

Bestie of Putin or not but he was opposition too,so that’s two main opposition guys taken care of.

Can you think of anyone else left? I cannot. Zelenkiy is sitting comfortably now considering how his ratings fell since his election as a president.

You keep making statements that you are all for XYZ then go on long rants saying the exact opposite. You've been watching too much Russian and Justin Barrett propaganda 🤣

He didn't, of course, but did he do anything to prevent it?

I've just watched a video on Sky News where Alex Crawford is reporting from Severodonetsk. Many people, she says, are refusing to get evacuated despite all the shelling and awful living conditions because they do believe they are being liberated by Russia. Right before the war support for Putin in the East was hitting up to 85% in some areas. What did Zelenskiy do to improve this situation during his presidency? Absolutely nothing. Did closure of Medvedchuk's tv channels create more pro-Russian support in the East? It surely did!

to make such a sweeping statement that the refugees - mainly women, children/ minors and elderly-should have stayed at home and fight or at least stick around in bunkers with young children for a few months and with all that entails and when the ‘noise stops’ come up and out and do what you can do for your country and not what your country can do for you.

you must have missed. What happened in Bourca and the levelling of the theatre in Mariopul by way of example

The majority of the refugees are not Dublin, nationally the government have secured less than 5% of hotel rooms, guest houses and B&Bs.

Tourism is at about 80% pre pandemic levels.

#maths

I knew you sounded familiar. 🤨

Many in the East are ethnically Russian and speak Russian and are legit refugees. It could be the case of Ukrainian speaking not liking the Russian speaking from the East to be beside them. The article doesn't have enough information but I'd imagine if those ethnic Russians had been Russian citizens, they would have been called exactly that in the article?

The article isn't clear, no. But the fact that this is raising it's head is concerning. No fire without a spark and all that. It's not so much as to where the 'refugee' is from, it's that people are getting into this country illegally. We have no way of knowing. The question is, if some people are found to be here illegally, who slipped through the net, who are not Ukrainian, what's to become of them or are we going to give them the supports that genuine Ukrainian refugees are getting?

Well with Ukraine being one of the most corrupt countries in Europe and Russia topping corruption, I don't think it would be any surprise to anyone for documents from those countries to be fabricated.

As a country hosting, and more importantly, giving very handsome support packages to these people, I would hope any inconsistencies and counterfeit documents would mean immediate deportation. But, as usual, no doubt, the good auld Irish Paddy will take them at their word and not be seen to interrogate or cross question upon entry and during their stay here.

Backgrounds checks?

Do you know where Irish visas for Ukrainians were processed before the war? In Russia. In the Irish Embassy there. You bring your docs to Irish Embassy in Kyiv and it all goes to Moscow for processing. I had a pleasure of being shouted at by one of the workers there 2.5 years ago when getting visas for my crowd to come and visit me here.Person shouting at me was born and bred Moscovite going by her accent.

What checks could Russian based facility really do on anyone in Ukraine?

I won’t even question the fact how come this set up never bothered anyone in Ireland or Ukraine, not even after 2014.

So it took THAT to add a proper bus service?

Can we get a Ukrainian team to sort out public transport in Ireland? Or a Polish team... I guess the govt would be to stingy too get the Dutch in.