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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,764 ✭✭✭storker


    "The Terminator 2 a tank chassis with lots of guns"

    Looks like some ideas die hard...the Russians used the tank below in 1941. See the MG and gun turrets in the front? They had the same arrangement at the back, in reverse .e. gun on the right, MG on the left. Yes, this tank had no less than five(!) turrets. It didn't do very well in combat. Surprise, surprise, mechanical failure was a big problem.

    (Actually the T2 looks more practical, but the Sky commentator's description made me think of the old T-35. 😀)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    The days of driving machines into cities are gone. A Barrett gun and a few rocket propelled grenades would make short work of the terminator, not to mention anti tank weapons.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    Unless they are literally willing to shoot their way through the Black Sea Fleet, which I very much doubt, it will remain very much an idea only...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭shivaz


    If the Russians keep to their usual form of obeying orders from the top,there may be a few Russian advances shelled out of existence.

    "Forward" he cried from the rear and the front rank died.....repeat again and again and again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    I suggested this a while back, its been done before. The problem would be Turkey allowing Naval ships through the Bosporus



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There is actually two versions on the terminator,one is based on t72 chassis the other is based on the t90 chassis,and i believe that t90 version comes with grenade launchers as well,except for that they are identical when it comes to armament.

    They are basically ment for urban warfare,lessons learned from Afghanistan and Chechnya.

    In the open they are sitting ducks to atgms like any other tank or ifv

    The new version of javelin have 4,5 km range



  • Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭ Esther Calm Valedictorian



    I don't think I've watched Sky news since. Weather interference to create certain conditions at short notice is just nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭shivaz


    There are reports that Denmark will send Harpoon anti-ship weapons to Ukraine.This is a message to Putin to lift the Black Sea blockade or risk his fleet and pride.I think other countries will offer anti-ship missiles if Putin fails to comply as this is a big issue for the worlds food supply.https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/05/23/ukraine-russia-invasion-live-updates/9888764002/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭jackboy


    If Ukraine get them then they will only need to sink one Russian ship to end the blockade. There is little risk of conflict escalation if Ukraine get these weapons. They need to get them and the training asap.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It's the same as any other IFV with the exception it was two 30mm canons when everyone's else has one , it's nothing special in the grand scheme of things, the name was given by the manufacturer ,

    It's neither unstoppable or anti missle proof,

    If only they could transfer Apache gunships to Ukraine they would be gone in a day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,890 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Few people can be under the illusion at this present time that Putin is actively looking for a way out of this war. His representatives have thus far either rebuffed calls for negotiations on a possible settlement between the countries or come to talks with demands far too sweeping and unreasonable for Zelenskyy to accept.

    But every single war is ultimately ended by a diplomatic action, even if that's the signing of a declaration of unconditional surrender, so this will end with a compromise on one side's original goals. The only question is who will be making that compromise and how much of a one they will be making.

    Going back to the idea that Putin is not contemplating compromise and will simply chuck legion after legion after legion of men at the situation until his forces manage to eke out gains across eastern Ukraine - it's true that Putin does not seem to much value the lives of his soldiers, but that doesn't mean that the soldiers don't value their own lives and their lives are not valued by their families. Russian casualties in Ukraine, even by relatively conservative estimates, have already surpassed what the Soviet army suffered in Afghanistan, and that was a war which helped to precipitate the fall of the Soviet Union. Putin would want to have an iron grip on the Russian people quite unlike anything seen in history that he can essentially fling tens of thousands of men into the meat grinder of Ukraine and expect to maintain domestic political stability over a prolonged period of time. It would be one thing if this was an existential war for Russia, but it most certainly is not.

    If, as the Atlantic article points out, Russia is not prepared to abide by international agreements, then the only way to end the war is a sufficient destruction of Russia's military, but this will never happen because failing all else, Russia has a massive stockpile of nuclear weapons - the ultimate bargaining tool - which make it impervious to complete takeover or subjugation by conventional military means. It seems to me that in international diplomacy, one of the things that binds a country to international agreements is the sense that it has more to gain from abiding to it than breaking it. Russia has seen less and less utility in sticking to agreements signed between itself and Ukraine or itself and the West, but is still doing business with China. This suggests to me that it wants to continue building good faith with China in an effort to build this new authoritarian world order. However, a change of leadership and political philosophy in Russia would change the calculus on how it deals with the West.

    In the end, the likelihood is that if Putin is to endure defeat, it doesn't happen on the battlefield, but in a rapid disintegration of his domestic power, similar to the German revolution of October 1918 that unseated Kaiser Wilhelm. That's what this war appears to be developing into - a protracted, bloody slaughter and it's all about which side can withstand the internal political pressures such a war generates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,501 ✭✭✭✭josip


    The scientific jury is still out on cloud seeding.

    It may not be effective, but it's not slam dunk crackpot either.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,501 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Gone in 1 day + the length of time it takes to train up on an Apache :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Stop being a realist 😜

    That or just add the Ukrainan flag to US flight suits



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    In the end, the likelihood is that if Putin is to endure defeat, it doesn't happen on the battlefield, but in a rapid disintegration of his domestic power, similar to the German revolution of October 1918 that unseated Kaiser Wilhelm.

    Agree 100%. I am not following the battles in Ukraine. As long as Ukraine does not lose catastrophically, it does not matter much. The defeat of Russian offensive will happen in Russian people's mind.



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Any helicopter in Ukraine is vulnerable to manpads because of the flat terrain,however the new spike NLOS might have a chance if used.

    Hellfires have to short range.

    Or an atgm like Stugna P or Javelin with longer range would be easier



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    I don't know if it works or not but your man on Sky could have been referring to the story about seeding the clouds on May 9th over Moscow. It might work in small measures.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Ukrainians have sentenced a Russian soldier to life for killing a civilian. RTE have described it as Ukraine seeking retribution. What strange language. RTE have reported this war weirdly, sometimes throwing digs at the Ukrainians for some reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,890 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Here's one for the economists on this thread: Russia has managed to buoy up the value of its currency at the moment. One reason for that, I heard, was the Russian central bank introducing capital control measures for Russian businesses, whereby they must convert 80 percent of foreign revenue to Rubles.

    So, the question I have would be is this method of propping up the Ruble sustainable or does it create an even larger financial jeopardy for the country at an unspecified point in the future?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,890 ✭✭✭✭briany


    What happened to 'Ukraine now has more tanks than Russia', the fact that shoulder-mounted systems were mincing Russian armour and that much of Russia's armour reserves are from the swinging 60s?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Hellfires have a range up to 11km how is that short range ,

    The fact is the apache can track , identify and prioritise tens of targets at any one time says it all ,they operate different doctrine to the Russians too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,764 ✭✭✭storker


    She's absolutely right. I blame that bastard Goldstein...



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Russian mothers have to sign an agreement saying the Moskva was an accident to recive insurance compensation.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,764 ✭✭✭storker


    "Retribution" would have been making him kneel in the street and shooting him in the back of the head.



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Putin doesnt look well at all if you ask me




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,890 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It would be nice if he were dying, but I could as easily put his posture and twitching movements down to stress. Right now, my more pressing concern is his huge case of massive dickhead syndrome which is contributing to a huge amount of casualties in Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,473 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Ukraine army took a massive loss today they said with 87 soldiers and loads of ammunition destroyed in a strike near Kyiv.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




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