Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

Do you have a personal gripe with me from one of your other accounts? Take it up with a mod if you do. If your don’t, then stop being petty

Snowcat, whatever the gender has posted In support of a conspiracy theory they don’t believe in. It’s a little odd. Asking why is not chasing them away.

Thanks. Yes i have a highly successful business and a supplementary organic farm where i try and make environmental and social acceptable decisions. I abosolutely despise GMO and when i heard the mRNA vaccines were going that route that was me out.

I am fully aware of the advantages and disadvantages of the different types of farming, but name your one organically used product and we'll see if it's a chemical or not rather than running away and strawmanning.

You are also highly privelaged to be in the position where you can afford to pay extra for organically grown food, or use your land at a lower productivity rate when farming, most of the world is not as lucky to be in that position and never will.

mRNA vaccines are not GMO, but go on in repeating some early anti-vax misnformation from the pandemic.

Vaccines are a low profit business, hence not many new ones being produced and most being funded by research efforts such as oxford or startups. Pharma companies much prefer to sell a treatment than a vaccine 50 euro for a vaccine course vs. 600 euro for a COVID treatment course.

Oop. Page 199 and still no conspiracy theory being posted.

The only person who admits to being a conspiracy theorist is just posting waffling nonsense to waste time cause they are in a pissy mood.

The rest have intermittently told us that they aren't anti-vax, aren't conspiracy theorists, aren't saying there's a conspiracy and aren't interested in discussion conspiracy theories.

Yet, I wonder which side flat earthers are on when it comes to vaccines...

It's based on people who are infected and then go and get tested so case numbers are fully down to human behaviour. It also turns out that those who refuse to get vaccinated are also less likely to get tested, unless they get severely sick, which they did in much higher %'s than the vaccinated.

Again, this was expected as the vaccine rollout went from everyone rushing to get vaccinated to everyone being vaccinated who wanted one, hence no one (bar conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers) was surprised by the numbers.

That you're still pushing this angle so many months later across 2 different accounts is your singular failure to understand, not anyone elses.

OK. Going full on conspiracy theory to avoid acknowledging a lack of any evidence.

Why have they stopped publishing the data exactly?

Are they also covering up all the other evidence the vaccine is increasing infections?

What I said and what the report says are not contradictory, outside of a controlled environment (which still shows the same effectiveness of vaccines of reducing cases by 50% in vaccinated populations) each impact has a likelihood of probability. What your saying is the most likely thing that has happened is something that has never happened before (vaccination makes infection more likely) and is contradicted by all other data from the weekly reports (latest one here: COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report: week 19 (publishing.service.gov.uk)).

That report contains the real world data, go and read it.

Now, what's interesting is whether you are going on a weird solo run with this (despite being proven wrong over and over, I mean seriously, for your own mental health this can't be good) or you are getting this information from another website, which is it?

And this is blatantly untrue, the exact opposite was seen until the antibody rate was near 99.8% in the UK (and you realise that the unvaccinated also include those who were previously infected thus would have some level of immunity depending on the variant at play):